A lamb grows with its mass proportional

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The problem involves a lamb whose mass is said to grow proportionally to the cube of its length. The original poster is attempting to find the final mass of the lamb after a specified change in length and mass. The context is rooted in understanding relationships between variables in a mathematical model.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between mass and length, questioning how the mass equation transforms through the problem. There are attempts to clarify the use of subscripts and the implications of the proportionality constant k. Some participants express confusion about the transition from the general mass equation to specific values.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the equations involved and questioning the steps taken by the original poster. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the mass equation and the significance of the proportionality constant. There is a recognition of differing approaches to solving for the final mass.

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Participants note the challenge of interpreting the solutions manual and the implications of the mass increase provided in the problem. There is also mention of potential confusion arising from the use of subscripts in the equations.

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A lamb grows with its mass proportional to the cube of its length. When the lambs length changes by 15.8% its mass increases by 17.3kg. Find the final mass.

Really stumped thanks for any help

mf=kxf3
length change by 15.8%
xi+.158xi=xf
xf=1.158xi

mf=k(1.158x)3
mf=1.55kx3

I couldn't get the right answer because at this point, my book shows kx3 turning into mi and continuing the problem from there. Why?

kx3=mi
mf=1.55mi
mi=mf/1.55
 
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Nerdlight said:
mf=kxf3
The information given is more general than that. It tells you m=kx3. In particular, mi=kxi3 and mf=kxf3.
xf=1.158xi

mf=k(1.158x)3
You dropped the subscript on the x. Based on your equations to this point, it should be mf=k(1.158xi)3
 
It was a little confusing ill try to make it more clear.
Need to find the value of m at the end of this process.

m = kx3

length change by 15.8%
xi+.158xi = xf
xf = 1.158xi

mass increase of 17.3kg
mf = mi+17.3

mf = kxf3
mf = k(1.158xi)3
mf = 1.55kxi3

The solutions manual does something here I don't understand
mf = 1.55(kxi3)
mf = 1.55mi
mi = mf/1.55

Why does kxi3 = mi
k and xi3 just disappear and mi shows up
I got 109kg from 2 different methods which is incorrect and the manual isn't helping much on this one.
 
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Nerdlight said:
m = kx3



Why does kxi3 = mi

The answer should be staring you in the face. It's because #m=kx^3##.
 
Lol gotcha, subscripts were throwing me, got to remember that m=kx^3 can take any x value whether its initial/final/middle. Thanks
 
You have it and you don't know it:

1.55mi-mi=17.3
 
Except he's been asked to solve for mf, not mi. It's better to eliminate mi rather than mf so you can solve for mf directly.
 
D H said:
Except he's been asked to solve for mf, not mi. It's better to eliminate mi rather than mf so you can solve for mf directly.
Potatoes, Potahtoes. I thought it would be easier for him to see it that way. I would have done it your way.

Chet
 

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