A mass hung from two attached springs

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The discussion focuses on the mechanics of two springs with different spring constants, k1 and k2, supporting a mass m. The correct total extension distance of the springs is derived using the formula x = mg(1/k1 + 1/k2), which accounts for the individual contributions of each spring rather than treating them as a single unit. The initial incorrect approach mistakenly combined the spring constants, leading to an erroneous result. Understanding the separate forces acting on each spring is crucial for accurate calculations in this system.

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Homework Statement



A light spring with constant k1 is hung from an elevated support. From its lower end a second light spring is hung, which has spring constant k2. An object of mass m is hung at rest from the lower end of the second spring.

a) Find the total extension distance of the pair of the springs.

Homework Equations



F= ma
Fs = kx

The Attempt at a Solution



I treated the two springs as a single device and made the following equation for the forces acting on the mass:

Fnet = 0
Fs1 + Fs2 - mg = 0
k1x + k2x = mg
(k1 + k2)x = mg
x = mg/(k1 + k2)

But this answer is incorrect. (Correct answer: x = mg(1/k1 + 1/k2).

Would someone be able to clarify what is happening in this system? I seem to be missing something...
 
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Seems like you need to treat each spring as a separate system. They have different spring constants so will put out different forces.

k1x = mg gives x1=mg/k1 similarly x2 = mg/k2
add x1 and x2 gives you total distance the spring is stretched.

Just my $0.02, this is my first year taking calculus based physics as well.
 
Hm I see. I was wrong to assume the forces on each spring would be the same...

Thank you! And I hope your physics course(s) are going well :)
 

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