A missle coliding witha satelite

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a missile colliding with a satellite, focusing on the dynamics of the collision and the relevant physical principles, particularly momentum and energy conservation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the satellite's circular motion and the missile's radial trajectory, questioning the implications of their perpendicular velocities. There is a discussion about the relevance of vector addition in calculating momentum, with some participants expressing confusion over the application of momentum conservation versus energy conservation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts of momentum and energy conservation, with some guidance offered regarding the need for vector addition in momentum calculations. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the correct approach to analyzing the collision.

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There is mention of the original poster's previous success with energy conservation, which raises questions about the assumptions made regarding momentum in this context. The discussion reflects a mix of scalar and vector considerations, indicating potential misunderstandings in the application of these concepts.

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I typed it in word. Is this correct?
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Isn't the satellite moving in a circular orbit and the missile in the radial direction? It seems to me that their velocities are perpendicular to each other which means you have a collision in two dimensions.
 
I agree but i don't see what that means.
 
talolard said:
I agree but i don't see what that means.
It means that the sum of the two momentum vectors before the collision is equal to the single momentum vector after the collision. How do you two add vectors that are perpendicular to each other?
 
Standard vector addition?
I don't see how vectors are relevant though because all of my quantities are scalrs and not vectors.

I solved this problem correctly previously using conservation of energy but I don't understand why momentum is wrong.
 
talolard said:
Standard vector addition?
I don't see how vectors are relevant though because all of my quantities are scalrs and not vectors.
The initial momentum of the satellite is not in the same direction as the initial momentum of the missile. Therefore, to find the total initial momentum, you need to add the two as vectors. You need the total initial momentum to use in the momentum conservation equation.
I solved this problem correctly previously using conservation of energy but I don't understand why momentum is wrong.
It is correct to use energy conservation after the collision is completed, however the solution will not be correct unless the velocity of of the composite mass immediately after the collision is calculated correctly.
 

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