A neutral conducting sphere and an insulating sphere....

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The discussion revolves around the interaction between a positively charged insulating sphere and a neutral conducting sphere. Participants explore the behavior of charges in response to this setup, particularly focusing on charge distribution and the forces at play between the two spheres.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • Participants discuss the movement of electrons within the neutral sphere in response to the positively charged insulating sphere, questioning how this affects charge distribution and the resulting forces.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the reasons behind the attraction between the spheres, with participants clarifying misunderstandings and building on each other's insights regarding the effects of charge density and distance on the forces involved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the implications of the insulating nature of one sphere and how it affects charge sharing and movement.

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My thinking was that the positively charged sphere would repel the electrons to the far side of the neutral sphere, creating a repulsive force between the two spheres until they touch and the charge is shared.

Since the one sphere is insulating, I'm guessing that means they wouldn't share the charge, but why do they attract each other?
 
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alexdr5398 said:
My thinking was that the positively charged sphere would repel the electrons to the far side of the neutral sphere, ...
OK. When electrons accumulate on the far side, can you describe the charge distribution of the neutral sphere?
 
TSny said:
OK. When electrons accumulate on the far side, can you describe the charge distribution of the neutral sphere?
The side closest the +ve charge sphere will be positively charged, since the free electrons will be reppeled to the other side.

Is it because the free electrons in +ve sphere will also be attracted the now positive side of the neutral sphere? So they attract?
 
Sorry, I misread your first argument. If the insulating sphere is positively charged, do the free electrons in the neutral sphere move to the far side or to the near side?
 
TSny said:
Sorry, I misread your first argument. If the insulating sphere is positively charged, do the free electrons in the neutral sphere move to the far side or to the near side?

Oh, of course, they are attracted to the near side. :( What a dumb mistake.

I understand now thank you.
 
alexdr5398 said:
Oh, of course, they are attracted to the near side. :( What a dumb mistake.

I understand now thank you.
OK. But make sure you see the whole story. Electrons move to the near side. But that leaves the far side positively charged. So, although the insulating sphere will attract the negative charge that accumulates on the near side of the conducting sphere, it will repel the positive charge that accumulates on the far side. So, you still need to explain why the attraction is greater than the repulsion.
 
TSny said:
OK. But make sure you see the whole story. Electrons move to the near side. But that leaves the far side positively charged. So, although the insulating sphere will attract the negative charge that accumulates on the near side of the conducting sphere, it will repel the positive charge that accumulates on the far side. So, you still need to explain why the attraction is greater than the repulsion.

Is it because the positive charges are less dense and farther away than the negative charges. The electrons all accumulate closest to the positive sphere and therefore create a larger attractive force than the +ve charges.
 
alexdr5398 said:
Is it because the positive charges are less dense and farther away than the negative charges. The electrons all accumulate closest to the positive sphere and therefore create a larger attractive force than the +ve charges.
Yes. The force is stronger on the negative charge because the negative charge is closer to the positively charge insulating sphere. Good.
 
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TSny said:
Yes. The force is stronger on the negative charge because the negative charge is closer to the positively charge insulating sphere. Good.

Thanks a lot for your help.
 

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