A particle slides down a non-fixed hemisphere

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The discussion revolves around a particle sliding down a non-fixed hemisphere, focusing on the dynamics involved and the conservation laws applicable to the scenario. Participants are exploring the implications of forces, energy conservation, and momentum in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are examining the role of the normal force and the kinetic energy of the hemisphere. There is a consideration of conservation of momentum and energy, with attempts to derive equations related to the motion of the particle. Questions are raised about the signs in the equations and the force balance on the hemisphere.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's reasoning. Some have offered equations and approaches, while others are seeking clarification on specific derivations and assumptions. There is no explicit consensus yet, as multiple interpretations and methods are being explored.

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Participants are navigating complexities such as the frame of reference for the hemisphere and the implications of the particle potentially losing contact. There is an acknowledgment of the need for further information regarding certain variables and conditions in the problem.

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Homework Statement
A uniform hemisphere of radius 𝑅𝑅 and mass 𝑀𝑀 is placed with its flat side on a
smooth surface. A particle of mass 𝑚𝑚 is at rest at the very top of the hemisphere in
unstable equilibrium condition. A very small disturbance causes the particle to
slide down the spherical surface from rest. At the same time the hemisphere will
be pushed by the particle to the left. You can assume no friction at any contact
points and surfaces. Find the angle theta where the particle lose contact with the hemisphere. The full description is shown below.
So far I work in hemisphere frame and wrote down equation of motion. I try to use the velocity obtained from conservation of energy and substitute it into the equation of centripetal force. However, I don't know how to get the expression of a in my work as shown below.
Relevant Equations
mgh=1/2mv^2
F=ma
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I do not see any point in equations involving the normal force from the ground.
I would find working in the frame of the hemisphere confusing here.
Your energy equation ignores the KE of the hemisphere.
Consider another conserved quantity.
 
haruspex said:
I do not see any point in equations involving the normal force from the ground.
I would find working in the frame of the hemisphere confusing here.
Your energy equation ignores the KE of the hemisphere.
Consider another conserved quantity.
I now consider the conservation of momentum and get ##v^2 =\frac{gR(1-cos\theta)}{1+\frac{m}{M}}##. Working in the frame of hemisphere, I get an equation of ##N-mgcos\theta +masin\theta = \frac{mv^2}{R}## where ma is the pseudo force as the hemisphere is accelerating leftward. In case of the particle loses contact with the hemisphere, N=0 and ##v^2## can use the above mentioned expression. However, I am unable to find the expression of a and hence cannot solve this problem.
 
Jason Ko said:
I now consider the conservation of momentum and get ##v^2 =\frac{gR(1-cos\theta)}{1+\frac{m}{M}}##.
Please show how you get that.
Jason Ko said:
Working in the frame of hemisphere, I get an equation of ##N-mgcos\theta +masin\theta = \frac{mv^2}{R}##
Check the signs. Which way are you taking as positive for ##a##?

What about the force balance on the hemisphere?
 

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