A person jumps from the roof...Calculating Leg Force during Deceleration

  • Thread starter Thread starter esong
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a person jumping from a height of 3.9 meters and decelerating upon impact with the ground. The discussion focuses on calculating the velocity just before impact and the average force exerted by the legs during deceleration, with specific attention to the dynamics of the situation.

Discussion Character

  • Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the velocity before impact and the subsequent force exerted by the legs. There are attempts to apply kinematic equations to find acceleration and force, with some questioning the inclusion of weight in the calculations. Others suggest the necessity of a free body diagram to clarify the forces acting on the torso.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing different calculations and interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider all forces acting during deceleration, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or final answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including the impact of gravitational force and the need for accurate directional analysis in their calculations. There is an emphasis on understanding the dynamics involved rather than simply arriving at a numerical solution.

esong
Messages
2
Reaction score
0
A person jumps from the roof...

Homework Statement



A person jumps from the roof of a house 3.9 m high. When he strikes the ground below, he bends his knees so that his torso decelerates over an approximate distance of 0.73 m.

- PART A If the mass of his torso (excluding his legs) is 40 kg, find his velocity just before his feet strike the ground.

- PART B: If the mass of his torso (excluding his legs) is 40 kg, find the magnitude of the average force exerted on his torso by his legs during deceleration.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I've done PART A, and got 8.7 m/s. (or \sqrt{2*9.8*3.9}))
I tried to get the acceleration during the deceleration by using the equation
(vf)^2 = (v0)^2-2ad
2a(.73m) = (8.7m/s)^2
a = 52.35
And multiplied the acceleration by the mass (40 kg) to get 2094 N,
but the program says I'm wrong! What am I doing wrong here?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
As far as I can see you are putting the numbers in wrong...

I get
(vf)^2 = (v0)^2-2ad
0 = -(8.7m/s)^2 - 2a(.73m) <= REMEMBER that vf is 0 and vi is 8.7
2a(.73m) = -(8.7m/s)^2
a = -(8.7^2)/(2*0.73)
a = -51.8424658
40a = -2073.69863N
 
I don't know about the numbers, but you are neglecting the weight of the person during impact. 2100+/- Newtons is the net force acting during the deceleration. That is not the the 'leg' force.
 
Sorry, but that's still the wrong answer.
Besides, the answer is a positive number.
 
esong said:
Sorry, but that's still the wrong answer.
Besides, the answer is a positive number.
Your acceleration value is OK, but you won't get the right answer for the leg force until you draw a free body diagram of the person's torso and note the forces acting on it. One of those forces is the force of his legs on the torso. What's the other?? Then, use Newton's 2nd Law to solve for the leg force. Mind your force and acceleration directions.
 
Last edited:

Similar threads

  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
4K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
11K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
Replies
1
Views
4K