A physics student is sitting on a rotating platform angular velocity question

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The problem involves a physics student on a rotating platform who is manipulating weights to observe changes in angular velocity. The discussion centers around various scenarios and their effects on the student's angular velocity, exploring concepts of angular momentum and rotational dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of transferring weights, dropping weights, and catching additional weights on angular velocity. There are attempts to classify the correctness of various statements based on physical principles.

Discussion Status

Some participants are questioning the correctness of specific answers and exploring the conditions under which angular momentum is conserved. There is an ongoing examination of the effects of weight placement and movement on the system's angular velocity.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the outcomes may depend on whether weights land on the platform and the configuration of the student's arms relative to the platform. The discussion also references the conservation of angular momentum and the role of external torques.

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Homework Statement


A physics student is sitting on a rotating platform. He is holding a heavy weight in each of his outstretched hands. At request of his physics instructor(!) he carries out various manoeuvres to try to change his angular velocity. Which of the following scenarios are described correctly?
Select True or False.

Homework Equations


E=1/2(mr^2)w^2

The Attempt at a Solution


1. he transfers both the weights to one outstretched hand. He then stretches his other hand back out to its original position. His angular velocity (after the manouvre is complete) has decreased.
FALSE

2. he transfers both the weights to one outstretched hand. He then stretches his other hand back out to its original position. His angular velocity (after the manouvre is complete) has not changed.
TRUE

3. he drops the weights. His angular velocity increases.
TRUE .

4. he drops the weights. His angular velocity reverses
FALSE

5. A friend throws a third weight so that the student catches it in one of his outstretched hands. No matter what the direction of the throw, the student's angular velocity increases.
FALSE

6. he drops the weights. His angular velocity decreases.
False

7. A friend throws a third weight so that the student catches it in one of his outstretched hands. No matter what the direction of the throw, the student's angular velocity decreases.
TRUE

8. he drops the weights. His angular velocity does not change.
FALSE

9. he raises his feet, and points them outwards from the chair as far as he can. His angular velocity reverses.
False

10. he brings the weights into his chest. His angular velocity increases.
TRUE

I cannot figure out which answer(s) is incorrect
 
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I 'm thinking that 3,6 and 8 depend on whether or not the weight lands on the platform ...
 
i also tried
False
True
False
False
False
False
True
True
False
True
which is also incorrect
 
You could try a true for 6.
 
Please provide your reasoning for the dropped weights case (3, 4, 6, 8) and catching the third weight (5,7).
Jilang said:
I 'm thinking that 3,6 and 8 depend on whether or not the weight lands on the platform ...
Why?
 
Relevant equation should be angular momentum is conserved. The student can use internal energy to move the weights inwards or outwards, exchanging internal energy for angular kinetic energy. If a weight is thrown by another student, and the student on the spinning platform catches the weight, then a torque impulse occurs, and angular momentum is not conserved since there's an externally sourced torque involved.
 
If the weight lands on the platform it will still be rotating and the angular momentum of the platform/student system won't change. Do we know if the students arms extend out over the edge of the platform?

On second thoughts it's irrelevant. Whether or not the angular momentum leaves the system won't affect the rotational velocity.
 
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