A rookie question for integrals of polynomial functions

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The discussion revolves around the concept of integrating polynomial functions, specifically focusing on the role of the constant of integration, denoted as C, in indefinite integrals and its implications for definite integrals.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about the constant C in the indefinite integral of a polynomial function, questioning its significance and what value it should take.
  • One participant clarifies that C can be any constant, emphasizing that it represents a set of functions that differ only by vertical shifts, which do not affect the slope of the function.
  • Another participant notes that if a boundary condition is provided, the specific value of C can be determined, leading to a unique function.
  • There is a question posed regarding why the constant C does not affect the result of a definite integral, with an example provided to illustrate that C cancels out in the evaluation process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the nature of C as an arbitrary constant in indefinite integrals and its cancellation in definite integrals, but there is ongoing exploration of its implications and significance.

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The discussion does not resolve the foundational understanding of why C is necessary in indefinite integrals or the implications of boundary conditions, leaving these aspects open for further exploration.

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$$\int x^2+3 = \frac{x^3}{3}+3x+C$$

I can get the front two part by power rule, but what is the C doing there? Wolframalpha suggested it should be a constant, but what value should it be? Sorry for asking rookie questions:-p
 
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Young physicist said:
$$\int x^2+3 = \frac{x^3}{3}+3x+C$$

I can get the front two part by power rule, but what is the C doing there? Wolframalpha suggested it should be a constant, but what value should it be? Sorry for asking rookie questions:-p

##C## could be any constant. Whatever it is, it vanishes when you differentiate.

This means that technically the antiderivative (indefinite integral) is not a single function, but a set (actually an equivalence class) of functions. If you have a boundary condition, the required value at ##x=0##, say, then you can calculate ##C## and you have a specific function.

Question for you: why does ##C## not matter for a definite integral? E.g.
$$\int_1^4 x^2+3 dx$$
 
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PeroK said:
This means that technically the antiderivative (indefinite integral) is not a single function, but a set (actually an equivalence class) of functions.

Specifically, the set of functions which are displaced up and down the y-axis relative to each other. If you take any function and shift it up or down, you don't change its slope. So the arbitrary constant C is an arbitrary, usually real, number indicating any vertically-shifted version of this same function.

I say usually because sometimes you're dealing with complex-valued functions and then C is any complex number.
 
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PeroK said:
Question for you: why does CCC not matter for a definite integral? E.g.
∫41x2+3dx​
$$\int _1^4 x^2 +3 dx =$$
$$\frac{4^3}{3}+3(4)+C-\frac{1^3}{3}-3(1)-C$$
$$=30$$
So the ##C## just cancels out.
 
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