A run of the mill Implicit Differentiation

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The problem involves using implicit differentiation to find the derivative y' of the equation 5x^2 + 3xy + y^2 = 152. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their solution and seeks validation and guidance on formatting equations correctly.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of the product rule in differentiating the term 3xy and question the original poster's approach to combining terms involving y'. There are attempts to clarify the differentiation process and the proper handling of terms.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's attempts and suggesting corrections. There is a focus on understanding the differentiation steps and ensuring the correct application of rules, but no consensus on the final answer has been reached.

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The original poster mentions potential confusion about their math skills and expresses concern about posting in the correct thread, indicating a possible lack of confidence in their understanding of the topic.

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Use Implicit Differentiation to find y' of the equation 5x^2+ 3xy+y^2=152. The attempt at a solution

y'= (-10x-5y)/3x

I would like to know if I did this right. I am not very confident in my math sometimes that why I came here. If i did this wrong will you please steer me right. Also if anyone could tell me how to put an equation in more like how you would write it I would appreciate that very much. (As in not the linear fashion I have done)
 
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I don't think this is correct. But, I have not done this in awhile. I think your problem is in the 2nd term [itex]3xy[/itex]. You have a product rule here.

You have [itex]\frac{d}{dx}[3xy]=3*\frac{d}{dx}[xy][/itex]. Now what is [itex]\frac{d}{dx}[xy][/itex] ? I.e, what is the product rule?
 
when i did the product rule i got 3y+3xy'
 
Group the terms with y' and separate the terms without y' into the other side of the equation. Then you can factor out y' from one side.
 
I did that last time then the 3y and the and the 2y (previously y^2) combine to 5y then negative after I subtract it over. what answer did you get? Also I believe I may have posted this in the wrong thread, its just a problem on a study guide.

So after doing what you said I again got the same answer.
 
You can't combine 3y and 2y because 2y is in the form (2y*y') by chain rule. 3y is a term without y', so the equation is actually 10x + 3y = -3x*y' -2y*y' (and then factor from there).
 
oh damn it your right lol thanks that's where i thought i may have gone wrong
 

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