A simple thermodynamic question

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The discussion revolves around a thermodynamic question regarding the effects of shaking a sealed Thermos bottle of hot coffee on its temperature and internal energy. Participants are exploring the relationship between work done on the system and changes in internal energy and temperature.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants question whether the work done during shaking contributes to an increase in internal energy or merely mechanical energy. Others suggest that shaking increases the kinetic energy of the particles, potentially affecting temperature.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants examining different interpretations of internal energy and the effects of work done on the system. There are conflicting views on whether shaking leads to an increase in temperature and how mechanical energy is converted into thermal energy.

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Participants are considering the definitions of internal energy and the role of random kinetic energy versus mechanical energy in the context of thermodynamic principles. There is an emphasis on justifying assumptions related to energy transformations during the shaking process.

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Homework Statement


When a sealed Thermos bottle of hot coffee is shaken, what changes, if any, takes place in the temperature of the coffee and its internal energy? Justify your answer.


Homework Equations


Internal energy = random kinetic energy + random potential energy


The Attempt at a Solution


The answer given says that because work is done on the system there is an increase in internal energy. But isn't the work done used to increase the mechanical energy of the system, not the internal energy. There should be no increase in the temperature, shouldn't it?
 
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arkofnoah said:

Homework Statement


When a sealed Thermos bottle of hot coffee is shaken, what changes, if any, takes place in the temperature of the coffee and its internal energy? Justify your answer.


Homework Equations


Internal energy = random kinetic energy + random potential energy


The Attempt at a Solution


The answer given says that because work is done on the system there is an increase in internal energy. But isn't the work done used to increase the mechanical energy of the system, not the internal energy. There should be no increase in the temperature, shouldn't it?

Logically I would think that by shaking the bottle the particles kinetic energy increases (they move faster due to the shaking) thus increasing temperature?
 
but if i remember correctly the internal energy of a system excludes the energies due to the state of the body as a whole such as the (translational) kinetic energy due to the motion of the body and the (gravitational) potential energy due to the height of the body. Internal energy includes only 'random' energy, doesn't it?
 
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arkofnoah said:
But isn't the work done used to increase the mechanical energy of the system, not the internal energy. There should be no increase in the temperature, shouldn't it?

After the thermos and the coffee inside have stopped moving, the mechanical energy is the same as what it was originally. Friction has converted the additional mechanical energy into thermal energy (internal energy).
 

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