A solid steel shaft is subjected to a torque of 45 KN/m.

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The discussion revolves around a solid steel shaft subjected to a torque of 45 KN/m, with specific parameters regarding angle of twist and shear stress. Participants are exploring how to determine the suitable diameter of the shaft based on these conditions, using torsion equations and material properties.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of the torsion equation and the relationship between torque, shear stress, and diameter. Questions arise about why two different diameters are obtained based on different criteria (angle of twist and shear stress).

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There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the two diameters calculated. Some participants are questioning the validity of using one diameter over the other and whether the shaft will withstand the shear stress at the calculated dimensions. Guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between shear stress and the minimum required diameter.

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Participants are considering the constraints imposed by the maximum shear stress and the angle of twist, leading to discussions about minimum diameter requirements and the implications of exceeding shear stress limits.

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A solid steel shaft is subjected to a torque of 45 KN/m. If the angle of twist is 0.5 degree per meter length of the shaft and the shear stress is not exceed 90 MN/m^2
(I) find the suitable diameter of the shaft . Take C = 80 GN/m^2
(II) Maximum shear strain


we can solve the question by torsion equation
T/Ip = e/R = CQ/l

T maximum twisting torque in Nm
Ip polar moment of inertia = pid^4/32 in m^4
e shear stress in N/m^2
R radius of the shaft
Q the angle of the shaft
l length if the shaft in m

my question know why in solving fined two diameter ?
 
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Well from your formula, which two should you equate with what you are given in order to get the diameter? (You know one quantity as one of the terms must be related to the diameter).
 
yes why ?

and here I have the solution

the fist answer is
Diameter on the basic of twist
= 0.16 m

and then diameter on the basis of shear stress :
D = 0.1365 m

Now my question why in answer give us two diameter ?

and which one is correct ?
 
Using shear stress, you got d=0.1365 m, so if you put d = 0.16 m will your shaft be able to withstand the shear stress or will it fail?

(Hint: You don't want your shaft to fail)
 
How I can know if the shaft It will withstand the shear stress or not ... ?

for finding the second diameter is depend on first diameter ?
 
manal950 said:
How I can know if the shaft It will withstand the shear stress or not ... ?

At the maximum shear stress value the diameter is 0.1356 m. (Meaning that this is the minimum diameter the shaft should be)

For the angle of twist, the diameter is 0.16 m. Since you want your shaft to be subjected to the specified angle of twist, then d = 0.16 m will be sufficient.
 
thanks so much ..
 
manal950 said:
thanks so much ..

In essence, what you did was to get the diameter for the angle of twist.

Then found the minimum diameter of the shaft to prove the first diameter would not exceed the shear stress.


Alternatively, you could have used the first diameter (found using the angle of twist) to get the shear stress using

\frac{T}{I_p} = \frac{e}{R}
 
thanks .. I forget ... how I can figure out the equation from above equation to solve for maximum strain ?? there is no simple for strain ?? ...
 
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manal950 said:
thanks .. I forget ... how I can figure out the equation from above equation to solve for maximum strain ?? there is no simple for strain ?? ...

How is shear stress and shear strain related to the modulus of rigidity (your value for C)?
 
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module of rigidity = steers / strain .
 
  • #12
manal950 said:
module of rigidity = steers / strain .

so from e/R = CQ/l, what do you get when you replace e with C*strain ?
 

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