A very strange curve on P-V diagram

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the representation of nitrogen on a pressure-volume (P-V) diagram, particularly focusing on states above the critical temperature and the corresponding curves. Participants explore the characteristics of these curves, especially in the context of superheated regions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants mention that for nitrogen at temperatures above the critical temperature, the state is represented on a different curve.
  • There is uncertainty regarding the specific curve that represents the superheated region, as one participant expresses a lack of recollection about it.
  • A later reply identifies the curve in question as an isotherm for temperatures above the critical temperature.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the specific characteristics of the curve for the superheated region, indicating that multiple views or uncertainties remain.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the definitions and assumptions related to the curves on the P-V diagram, particularly concerning the superheated region and its representation.

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Hi. For a state of nitrogen in which temperature is higher than the critical temperature the state is presented on a different curve. I do not remember any curve for superheated region.

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Source: Introduction to Engineering Thermodynamics by Sonntag/Borgnakke.
Thank you.
 
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mech-eng said:
Hi. For a state of nitrogen in which temperature is higher than the critical temperature the state is presented on a different curve. I do not remember any curve for superheated region.

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Source: Introduction to Engineering Thermodynamics by Sonntag/Borgnakke.
Thank you.
Is there a question here?
 
Chestermiller said:
Is there a question here?

Yes, what is that curve which point a stands on?
Thank you.
 
mech-eng said:
Yes, what is that curve which point a stands on?
Thank you.
It's an isotherm, for a temperature above the critical temperature.
 

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