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The discussion revolves around the experiences and insights related to pursuing a Master's degree in Physics at various universities in Europe, excluding the UK. Participants share information about programs offered in English, housing challenges, and the overall environment for international students.

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Main Points Raised

  • Tanuj Trivedi expresses interest in switching to Physics for graduate studies and lists several universities in Europe that offer programs in English.
  • One participant suggests Jagiellonian University in Krakow, Poland, noting that many classes are taught in English due to a high number of international students.
  • Another participant confirms that MSc programs at Dutch universities, including UvA, are taught entirely in English and emphasizes the importance of checking tuition costs for non-EU citizens.
  • Concerns are raised about the necessity of taking deficiency courses and whether those courses would be available in English.
  • A participant mentions that housing is a significant issue in Amsterdam, contrasting it with Groningen, which is described as a more student-friendly city.
  • It is noted that Swedish universities, including Chalmers University, have transitioned to English-taught programs, and that English proficiency among students and faculty is generally high in Sweden and the Netherlands.
  • Some participants suggest considering Utrecht and Leiden universities for their strong physics programs, particularly for particle physics.
  • There is a discussion about the potential challenges of studying in Germany, where English proficiency among the general population may be lower compared to the Netherlands and Sweden.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that many universities in Europe offer programs in English and that housing can be a challenge in certain cities. However, there are differing opinions on the best universities for specific fields, such as particle physics, and uncertainty remains regarding the availability of deficiency courses in English.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various universities and their programs without reaching a consensus on which is the best option for particle physics. There are also unresolved questions about the specific availability of deficiency courses in English and the implications of tuition costs for non-EU students.

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Hello,
My name is Tanuj Trivedi. I am a final year B.Tech. Electronics & Communication Engineering student from Nirma University, Ahmedabad.
I'm planning to switch to Physics for my graduation studies, either in India, or in Europe.

some universities in EU that provide an MS in English, and where it is possible for me to apply (as an Engg. student) are the following:
Universiteit van Amsterdam, NL
University of Groningen, NL
Uppsala University, Sweden
Lunds University, Sweden
University of Stuttgart, Germany
University of Leipzig, Germany

Is anyone here that has studied, or is planning to from these universities? How 'English' is their MS Physics program?
Being an Engineering student, if I do get admitted, I'll probably have to take deficiency courses, which might not be available in English.

In any case, I'd surely appreciate any suggestions, or help on this front. I am a little reluctant to opt for uni's in EU, mostly due to lack of information available about them.

Thank you,
tanuj.
 
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Try the Jagiellonian Univerisity in Krakow in Poland. I'm considering going there, and I've been told that since so many people that study there are foreigners, a lot of the classes are in English.
 
I'm familiar with the physics programs at several Dutch universities including UvA... What discipline are you interested in?

The MSc programs are indeed completely in English - all the coursework is taught in English and researchers and technical personel are perfectly willing to speak English with you if you don't speak Dutch. It is also very easy to buy groceries and to otherwise function in daily life if you only speak English.

One thing I would investigate is the cost of tuition for an MSc. Dutch master's programs are attached to the undergraduate program and so you must pay tuition - which for a non-EU citizen is a significant sum of money. However, once you get to the PhD you pay no tuition and the wages are very competitive.
 
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Particularly, I'm interested in Particle Physics. MSc in Particle & Astroparticle Physics program has accepted my Pre-App at UvA. My point is, I would most probably have to take deficiency courses, at the bachelor's and advanced bachelor's level. Are these courses taught in English?
I've also heard housing is a major problem at Amsterdam.

How's the University of Groningen?
 
MSc courses at universities in Sweden are definitely taught in English and there are plenty of foreign students.
My old university (Chalmers University in Gothenburg) actually switched completely to English this year, i.e. all undergraduate courses are now taught in English (although that was nearly true before as well, there are so many foreign researchers there and many of them do not speak much Swedish).

I don't think you have to worry about language at the universities, ALL lecturers and students at that level in Europe tend to speak English very well.
However, life outside the university might be a bit tricky if you don't speak any German and decide to study at a German university. Whereas you can communicate with just about everyone in Sweden and Holland in English, "ordinary" Germans don't speak much English.
 
Hi tanujt,

The housing is indeed a problem in Amsterdam (not enough housing facilities for students). Groningen is much smaller than Amsterdam. It's a typical student city so housing isn't a problem there. I think both universities compare in ranking, although I don't know which one is better for particle and astrophysics.
Have you considered the university of Utrecht and Leiden? Both are the best universities for physics in Holland (Utrecht has the Nobel prize winner Gerard 't Hooft).
Also in Holland you can be sure that almost every MSc is taught in English (except for MSc like Dutch Literature), especially in science subjects.
 
Poop-Loops said:
Try the Jagiellonian Univerisity in Krakow in Poland. I'm considering going there, and I've been told that since so many people that study there are foreigners, a lot of the classes are in English.

My brother-in-law received his masters from the Jagiellonian University. He enjoyed it immensely. They do indeed teach many classes in English. My brother-in-law got his degree in Political Science and studied the transition of Poland into the EU, so I don't know about any other programs there.

Krakow is a great city- it has something like 10 universities and the city is very much like a college town. Lots of young people around. Very fun vacation for a few days.
 
tanujt said:
Particularly, I'm interested in Particle Physics. MSc in Particle & Astroparticle Physics program has accepted my Pre-App at UvA. My point is, I would most probably have to take deficiency courses, at the bachelor's and advanced bachelor's level. Are these courses taught in English?
I've also heard housing is a major problem at Amsterdam.

How's the University of Groningen?

I've yet to make it to Groningen and I don't know anyone who works there... For particle physics I think Utrecht is the best university in the Netherlands.

You might have a hard time taking undergraduate course as they are usually taught in Dutch. However, there are occasional exceptions so it would be worth contacting the departments you've applied to.

It's true that good housing is difficult to find in Amsterdam. The good news is that the physics department is moving out of the city centre in 2009 (? I think - it's really soon). So housing will be a bit easier then.
 

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