Absolute value equations with extraneous solutions

In summary, the conversation is about solving absolute value equations and the discrepancy that occurs when one of the solutions does not seem to make sense. The website provided claims that 8/3 is a solution to |2x- 3|= x- 5, but the left and right sides do not match when 8/3 is plugged in. The conversation also discusses whether there is a way to know if an answer is extraneous or if one should always check solutions to absolute value equations.
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I'm a little confused about solving absolute value equations and why sometimes solutions don't seem to make sense.

Take a look at case (ii) on this website:
http://www.algebralab.org/lessons/lesson.aspx?file=Algebra_AbsoluteValueEquations.xml

I understand the process of solving the equation, and I understand how they arrive at the two solutions. The only problem is, 8/3 is not actually a solution! You can see this by the simple fact that the left side of the equation has to be positive (since the entire left side is inside the absolute value "brackets"). Since 8/3 - 5 is a negative number, it can't be equal to the left side! When you plug in 8/3 you get 7/3 = - 7/3 which does not make sense.

The website claims 8/3 is a solution, but it certainly doesn't seem like it is. Can someone explain, in a mathematical sense, why this discrepancy comes about? Is there any way to know that an answer is extraneous or should one always check solutions to absolute value equations to make sure they are indeed solutions?

Thanks!
 
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You are completely correct that 8/3 is NOT a solution to |2x- 3|= x- 5.

On the right 2(8/3- 3= 16/3- 9/3= 7/3 while on the right 8/3- 5= 8/3- 15/3= -7/3.


Unfortunately, there are a number of "algebra" and "mathematics" sites like this one that are full of errors.
 
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Good, I thought I was going crazy haha

In that case, what about the second part of my question: why does this discrepancy happen? Is there any way to know that an answer is extraneous or should one always check solutions to absolute value equations to make sure they are indeed solutions?

Thanks for your response!
 
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According to Wolfram Alpha , x=-2 is also not a solution. This equation has no solutions .
 
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Dear student,

Thank you for bringing up this concern about absolute value equations and extraneous solutions. This is a common confusion that many students have when first learning about absolute value equations, so you are not alone in your confusion. Let's dive into the mathematical explanation behind this discrepancy and how to identify extraneous solutions.

First, it is important to understand that absolute value is a mathematical function that always returns a positive value. In other words, it "absolutizes" a number, making it positive regardless of its original sign. This is why, in the solution process for absolute value equations, we must consider both the positive and negative values of the expression inside the absolute value brackets.

Now, let's take a closer look at the example on the website you provided. The equation is |3x - 5| = 7 and the solution process results in two solutions, x = 4 and x = 8/3. As you correctly pointed out, when we plug in x = 8/3 into the equation, we get 7/3 = -7/3, which is not a true statement. So why does this happen?

The reason is because when we solve for x, we are essentially removing the absolute value brackets and solving for the expression inside it. In this case, we are solving for 3x - 5. When we do this, we end up with two equations: 3x - 5 = 7 and 3x - 5 = -7. These two equations represent the two possible values of 3x - 5 that would give us a positive 7 when we apply the absolute value function.

Therefore, when we plug in x = 8/3 into the equation 3x - 5 = -7, we get a false statement. This is because the expression inside the absolute value brackets must be positive, but in this case, it is negative. This means that x = 8/3 is an extraneous solution, or a solution that does not satisfy the original equation.

To answer your question, yes, it is important to always check solutions to absolute value equations to make sure they are indeed solutions. This is because the nature of absolute value equations can result in extraneous solutions. A good way to check for extraneous solutions is to plug the solutions back into the original equation and see if it satisfies it.

I hope this explanation has helped clarify the concept of extraneous solutions in
 

1. What is an absolute value equation?

An absolute value equation is an algebraic equation that contains an absolute value expression. The absolute value of a number represents its distance from zero on a number line. Absolute value equations can have one or more solutions.

2. What is an extraneous solution?

An extraneous solution is a solution to an absolute value equation that does not satisfy the original equation. This can happen when solving the equation involves taking the absolute value of both sides, which can introduce potential solutions that do not actually work in the original equation.

3. How do you solve an absolute value equation with extraneous solutions?

To solve an absolute value equation with extraneous solutions, you must check each solution you get by substituting it back into the original equation. If it does not satisfy the equation, it is an extraneous solution and should be discarded.

4. Can an absolute value equation have more than one extraneous solution?

Yes, an absolute value equation can have multiple extraneous solutions. This can occur when there are multiple absolute value expressions in the equation, or when the equation is solved using a method that introduces extraneous solutions.

5. How can I avoid extraneous solutions in absolute value equations?

To avoid extraneous solutions in absolute value equations, it is important to carefully check each solution by substituting it back into the original equation. It is also helpful to understand the properties of absolute value and use them correctly when solving the equation.

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