Abstract Algebra Proof by induction problem

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The forum discussion focuses on proving the inequality involving the nth root of the product of numbers and their average using mathematical induction. The problem is derived from "Abstract Algebra, Theory and Applications" by T. W. Judson (2013). The user successfully establishes the base case for n=1 and assumes the statement holds for an arbitrary integer k. However, they struggle to prove the case for k+1 and inquire about the necessity of complete induction. A suggestion is made to consider the case when n=2 for clarity.

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Homework Statement


Show via induction that the nth root of (a1 * a2 * a3 * ... an) ≤ 1/ (n) * ∑ ai, where i ranges from 1 to n.


Homework Equations


Induction


The Attempt at a Solution



Let Pn be the statement above. It is clear that P1 holds since a1 ≤ a1. Now let us assume that Pn holds for any arbitrary integer k, that is the kth root of (a1 * a2 * a3 * a4 * ... ak) ≤ 1/k * ∑ ai

where i ranges from 1 to k.

I need to show that the (k + 1)th root is ≤ 1/ (k + 1) * ∑ ai, where i ranges from 1 to k + 1. I have had no such luck doing this. Would complete induction be required here?



The source of the problem is from Abstract Algebra, Theory and Applications from T. W. Judson (2013 version).
 
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Isaac Wiebe said:

Homework Statement


Show via induction that the nth root of (a1 * a2 * a3 * ... an) ≤ 1/ (n) * ∑ ai, where i ranges from 1 to n.


Homework Equations


Induction


The Attempt at a Solution



Let Pn be the statement above. It is clear that P1 holds since a1 ≤ a1. Now let us assume that Pn holds for any arbitrary integer k, that is the kth root of (a1 * a2 * a3 * a4 * ... ak) ≤ 1/k * ∑ ai

where i ranges from 1 to k.

I need to show that the (k + 1)th root is ≤ 1/ (k + 1) * ∑ ai, where i ranges from 1 to k + 1. I have had no such luck doing this. Would complete induction be required here?



The source of the problem is from Abstract Algebra, Theory and Applications from T. W. Judson (2013 version).

Are all the ai supposed to be > 0? If so, try first to look at the simple case of n = 2.
 
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All ai ⋲ N, so yes they are. And for n = 2 I eventually receive that √(a1 * a2) ≤ 1/2 (a1 + a2)
Or a1 * a2 ≤ [(a1 + a2)^2] / 4. Not entirely sure why I would want to do multiple base cases, but I think you are on the right track.
 

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