Acceleration, and displacement

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The discussion clarifies the concepts of acceleration and displacement, emphasizing that displacement cannot be negative, but acceleration can be negative depending on the direction of the vector. Acceleration is defined as the change in velocity (Δv) over the change in time (Δt), and its sign is determined by the scalar product of acceleration and velocity. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the sign convention in vector analysis, particularly in contexts like circular motion where acceleration can be perpendicular to motion.

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I think we can't have a negative displacement. Is that right?

Acceleration: the change in displacement / change in time squared
Since displacement can't be negative, and time can't be negative, acceleration also can't be negative.
But I know (it's in the books) that when we have decreasing acceleration, it's negative. How is that?
 
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jaja1990 said:
I think we can't have a negative displacement. Is that right?
Why do you think this? Realize that whether a vector is negative or not just depends on the sign convention used when specifying its components.
Acceleration: the change in displacement / change in time squared
Better to think of acceleration as Δv/Δt.
Since displacement can't be negative, and time can't be negative, acceleration also can't be negative.
Again, the sign of a vector is rather arbitrary.
But I know (it's in the books) that when we have decreasing acceleration, it's negative. How is that?
Acceleration is a vector. A negative acceleration just means that the acceleration vector points in the negative direction. For example, if you take up as positive, the acceleration of a falling body will be negative.
 
Doc Al said:
Why do you think this? Realize that whether a vector is negative or not just depends on the sign convention used when specifying its components.

Better to think of acceleration as Δv/Δt.

Again, the sign of a vector is rather arbitrary.

Acceleration is a vector. A negative acceleration just means that the acceleration vector points in the negative direction. For example, if you take up as positive, the acceleration of a falling body will be negative.
I understand now, it's the direction that is negative, not the magnitude.

Why is it better to think of acceleration as Δv/Δt?
I guess it just a matter of which is more intuitive/elegant, but maybe there is another reason; is there?
 
Acceleration is the derivative of the velocity so it's dv/dt.

The sign of the acceleration can have different criteria, I think an acceleration is negative if the scalar product (dv/dt)•v < 0 and positive if (dv/dt)•v > 0. If the scalar product it's zero then the acceleration is perpendicular to the motion. This is the case in circular motion, for example.
 
jaja1990 said:
Why is it better to think of acceleration as Δv/Δt?
I guess it just a matter of which is more intuitive/elegant, but maybe there is another reason; is there?
Well, Δv/Δt is the definition of acceleration (at least average acceleration).

Blindly using Δx/(Δt)2 can lead to silly results. Imagine something moving at a constant velocity of 10 m/s for 1 second. Δx = 10, Δt = 1. Obviously the acceleration is zero here, so that formula fails.
 

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