Acceleration Due to Gravity of the Sun

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The discussion revolves around calculating the acceleration due to gravity of the Sun at the distance of Earth's orbit, utilizing the law of gravity and relevant constants such as the Sun's mass and the Earth-Sun distance.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore different calculations for the acceleration due to gravity, questioning the accuracy of distance conversions and the squared radius used in the formulas. There are discussions about the implications of Newton's Shell Theorem and the correct interpretation of the distance from the center of the Sun to the center of the Earth.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing various calculations and questioning each other's assumptions about the distance and the formulas used. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct interpretation of the radius and the need for accurate unit conversions.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on ensuring that the distance from the Earth to the Sun is correctly represented in meters, as well as discussions about the degree of accuracy required for the calculations. Participants reference the mean Earth-Sun distance and its implications for the gravitational calculations.

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Homework Statement



What is the acceleration due to gravity of the sun at the distance of the Earth's orbit?

Homework Equations



law of gravity = Gm/r^2
Sun's Mass: 1.99x10^30 kg,
earth-sun distance: 150x10^6 km

The Attempt at a Solution



((6.67*10^(-11)) * (1.99*10^30))/ (2.25*10^12)

= 58992444.4444

Does this appear correct?
 
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Your distance term is not correct. You need to convert it to meters before you square it.
 
Out of curiousity...why is r="2.25" where did that come from?
What are you adding to the mean Earth-Sun distance of 1 AU?

Casey
 
How about this...

((6.67*10^(-11)) * (1.99*10^30))/ (2.25*10^22)

= 0.005899244 m/s^2 ~0.00
 
ideefixem said:
How about this...

((6.67*10^(-11)) * (1.99*10^30))/ (2.25*10^22)

= 0.005899244 m/s^2 ~0.00

Looks much better. But again, what are you using for a radius?

Casey
 
I'm using the distance from the Earth to the Sun.
1.50 x 10^11 = r
r^2 = 2.25*10^22
 
Ah. I did not notice that you already squared r. Silly me. Anyway, I do not know what degree of accuracy you are looking for, but you may want to account for the fact that by Newton's Shell Theorem, r would be the distance from the center of one mass to the center of the other.

Casey
 
g=Gm/r^2
For sun,
g=6.67*10^-11*1.989*10^30/(695000000)^2
=274.51m/s

Isn't it right?
 
The earlier posts were almost correct the Sun’s acceleration on the Earth is -
2pi * Orbital Velocity in (meters/sec ) / Orbital Period (in seconds)
= 29785.513 * 6.28318531 / 31557600
= 0.00593036 m/s2
 
  • #10
NB. The Orbital Velocity squared * Radius is a constant for all the planets.
Eg. OV^2 * R(AU) = approx 887177000

For the Earth using OV = 29785.52 and R(AU) = 1 then K = 887177201
For Saturn using OV = 9644.8848 and R(AU) = 9.5371 then K = 887177310
 
  • #11
without an doubt, the correct answer to the question is from Saladsamurai
because distance from Earth to sun is 1.50x10^8 km or 1.50x10^11m
 
  • #12
Yes, the distance between sun and Earth is approx 1.5E+11
Since g = OV^2/R then it still comes out at 0.005914512
Orbital Velocity squared = 887176784.7
Check it yourself.

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