Acceleration in QFT: Fundamentals, Causes, Quantization

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The discussion revolves around the concept of acceleration in quantum field theory (QFT), exploring its fundamental nature, causes, potential quantization, and its relationship with the equivalence principle. Participants also draw comparisons with non-relativistic quantum mechanics (NRQM) and question the implications of these concepts in both frameworks.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the meaning of "at a fundamental level" and suggests that the original question may be unanswerable.
  • Another participant explains that particles in QFT are quantized excitations of fields and raises questions about the nature of acceleration and its causes, such as interactions with photons.
  • Concerns are expressed about the applicability of classical concepts of acceleration to QFT, particularly in the absence of a well-defined position and velocity.
  • A participant discusses the relationship between wave functions in NRQM and expected values, questioning how these concepts translate to QFT.
  • There is a suggestion that understanding statistical properties of acceleration requires precise definitions and measurements.
  • One participant recommends studying NRQM further, particularly the Ehrenfest theorem, to better grasp the concepts before tackling QFT.
  • Another participant discusses the expected values in NRQM and how they relate to acceleration, questioning the connection to QFT.
  • There is a mention of the Heisenberg picture in NRQM as a potentially clearer framework for understanding acceleration.
  • A challenge is posed to define "acceleration" in the context of a field, leading to a mathematical expression for acceleration in terms of field derivatives.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the nature of acceleration in QFT, with no consensus reached. Some participants agree on the need for a deeper understanding of NRQM before approaching QFT, while others challenge the applicability of classical concepts to quantum frameworks.

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Participants highlight the complexity of translating classical concepts of acceleration to QFT, noting the absence of a wave function and the need for precise definitions in discussing statistical properties. The discussion also reflects varying levels of familiarity with quantum mechanics and its implications for understanding QFT.

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What is acceleration in QFT at the fundamental level?
What causes it?
Is it quantized?
Is there a connection between acceleration in QFT and the equivalence principle?
 
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What does "at a fundamental levbel" mean? What would be the answer to your question for ordinary QM?

I suspect your question is unanswerable.
 
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I understood that particles in QFT are quantized excitations of fields, each field has its own particle.
What happens when a particle accelerates? Why does it accelerate? For example, does an electron accelerate because it has been hit by a photon? By a discrete number of them? What is the relationship between acceleration and the equivalence principle?
In NRQM there are potentials and expected values of operators corresponding to observables, in QFT there is no wave function. What's going on?
 
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IYou seem to be thinking of "acceleration" meaning a funbction of a particle's trajectory when in has a well-determined position and velocity. It doesn't work like that even in orfinary QM, much less field theory.
 
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I am not an expert in NRQM, I have only studied from Griffiths' book.
If we have a wave function of a particle, is the mean velocity of a large number of experiments prepared in the same way the derivative of the expected value of the wave function? Can we generalize this to acceleration? Where am I going wrong?
What happens in QFT?
Sorry to waste your time.
Should I study more quantum mechanics before moving to QFT?
 
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Where am I going wrong?
Trying to understand QFT before understanding QM.

If you want to talk about statistical properties of acceleration, not event by event, you will need to specify the condition and measurements much more precisely. Mathematically, if possible.
 
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Should I study more quantum mechanics before moving to QFT?
Yes. Especially the Ehrenfest theorem.
 
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Is this reasoning correct or wrong?
In NRQM there is a state vector ## \ket \Psi## that has all the information about the system inside. Therefore, one cannot talk about position, velocity, acceleration, etc. The wave function is the state expressed in position basis, and its Fourier transform is the state expressed in momentum basis.
The expected value is the average value we get by repeating the experiment starting from the same initial conditions, and we can calculate them as follows: ##\braket{x}=\braket{\Psi|\hat x|\Psi}## and ##\braket{p}=\braket{\Psi|\hat p|\Psi}##, where ##\hat x## and ##\hat p## are operator associated with position and momentum.
If I want to get a quantity associated with acceleration, should I consider ##\frac{d\braket{p}}{dt}##?
By Ehrenfest's theorem this quantity is: ##\frac{d\braket{p}}{dt}=-\braket{\frac{\partial V}{\partial x}}##
Which under some conditions reproduces Newton's law $$F=ma$$ in classical mechanics.
Is this related to the concept of acceleration in NRQM or am I still getting it wrong?
What happens in QFT when a particle is accelerated?
I'm using a translator, sorry for mistakes.
 
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Is this related to the concept of acceleration in NRQM ... ?
Yes. Another thing that I recommend you to study is NRQM in the Heisenberg picture, with that formalism acceleration in NRQM is even easier to understand.

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What happens in QFT when a particle is accelerated?
If you formulate QFT in the Heisenberg picture, then acceleration in QFT is an easy generalization of acceleration in NRQM. See e.g. https://arxiv.org/abs/1605.04143 Eq. (10).
 
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Really? Then define "acceleration" for a field!
 
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vanhees71 said:
Really? Then define "acceleration" for a field!
$$\frac{\partial^2\phi(x,t)}{\partial t^2}$$
 

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