Acceleration Needed to Keep Block From Falling

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a block that is 20% more massive than a person climbing a rope. The scenario includes a massless, frictionless pulley and the need to determine the acceleration required to prevent the block from falling.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to establish the relationship between the masses and the gravitational force acting on the block. Some participants question the method of substituting specific values for mass instead of keeping them as variables, while others suggest a clearer setup for the equations involved.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different approaches to the problem, with some providing guidance on how to set up the equations correctly. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's confusion regarding units, and a participant offers a clearer explanation of the relationships between the variables involved.

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There is a mention of the need to keep the block from falling, which implies constraints on the acceleration that the person must achieve. The original poster's choice of mass values is noted as potentially complicating the understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement


a block 20% moe massive than yo uhangs from a rope. the other end of hte rpe goes over a massless frictionless pulley and dangles freely, with what acceleration must you climb th rope to keep the block from falling.

Homework Equations



possible w = mg
f = ma
p = mv

The Attempt at a Solution


mass of the body = 1 kg (easy to work with)
mass of block = 1.2 kg

the block falls w/ -g

if i want to keep the block from falling i haev to counter the block falling at

g * mass of block = 11.76 m/s^2 * kg
i feel like the answer is wrong because of units...
 

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You have the (almost) correct answer, but I would suggest you change your process a bit.

You're looking for the acceleration of 'you' so that the block does not move. So, you're main goal is:

[tex]\Sigma F = ma = 0[/tex]

We can use [tex]m_1[/tex] for the person, and [tex]m_2[/tex] for the block. And we know
[tex]m_2 = 1.2 m_1[/tex]
and the weight of the block is [tex]m_2 g[/tex]

The equation will look like:
[tex]m_1a + m_2g = 0[/tex]
[tex]m_1a = -m_2g[/tex]

Substituting for [tex]m_2[/tex] we get:
[tex]m_1a = -1.2 m_1 g[/tex]
divide by [tex]m_1[/tex] to get
[tex]a = -1.2g[/tex]
Then solve using -9.8 for g
[tex]a = 11.76 m/s^2[/tex]

Even though it may seem more complicated, it is generally easier and cleaner just to leave unknown quantities as the variables, i.e. don't substitute some random amount such as the 1 you used for m.
 
ah that makes sense how you got the units to end up correct, i like how you set it up, thanks!
 
You're welcome!
 

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