Acceleration on a parabolic curve

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The discussion revolves around a problem from Hibbeler's Engineering Dynamics concerning the acceleration of a point on a parabolic curve. Participants are attempting to determine the x-coordinate of point B, which is necessary for calculating the radius of curvature and subsequently the normal and tangential components of acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to use the radius of curvature formula but is hindered by the lack of the x-coordinate for point B. They explore the relationship between arc length and the coordinates. Other participants suggest using the speed as a function of arc length and provide alternative methods for calculating arc length through integration.

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Participants are actively exploring different methods to find the x-coordinate of point B. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of arc length and the relationship between speed and time, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive approach.

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The problem includes a given arc length from point A to B and specifies that the x-coordinate of point A is 100. The discussion highlights the complexity of the calculations involved, with one participant noting that the numerical solution for x is close to 50 m.

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Hi

I am doing some problem in Hibbeler's Engineering Dynamics (12 ed.). I have posted the problem as an attachment. I think the author has not given the x coordinate of the point B. Once that is given we can use the radius of curvature formula

\rho = \frac{[1+(dy / dx)^2]^{3/2}}{|d^2y/dx^2| }

to get the radius of curvature at point B. And then we can find normal and tangential components of the acceleration at point B. But to use the above formula,we need to know the x coordinate of the point B. And I don't know how to find that from the given information.
Any ideas ?

thanks
 

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Point A is on the x axis, its y coordinate is zero. The equation of the parabola is given.

ehild
 
Hi ehild

Yes, I can find dy/dx alright, but we have been given an arc length from point A to B. x coordinate of A is 100. So I tried to set up an equation using formula for arc length from calculus, and tried to integrate it to get some transcendental equation. Mathematica gave me very ugly output...

thanks
 
The speed is given as function of s. The speed is ds/dt. Knowing s, you can find the time when the car is at point B. Try to use it...I do not know the solution yet.

ehild
 
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If you are trying to find the distance traveled on the parabola, the formula for the radius of curvature is inappropriate. There is another was to find arclength from calculus, which is given in differential form:

ds^2 = dx^2 + dy^2

dividing thru by dx^2:

[ds/dx]^2 = 1 + [dy/dx]^2

taking square roots:

ds/dx = sqrt(1 + [dy/dx]^2)

ds = sqrt(1 + [dy/dx]^2) * dx

Integrate both sides and you will have your arclength.
 
The arclength is given. The x coordinate is the question. From the given s=51.5 m, x can be calculated numerically (it is ugly, I admit, but close to 50 m).

ehild
 
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