ACS Organic Exam Who's taken it?

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The discussion revolves around the ACS Organic Chemistry Exam, focusing on participants' experiences, preparation strategies, and the requirements for passing the exam to transfer from community college. The scope includes personal anecdotes, advice on study materials, and differing interpretations of the required percentile for acceptance into universities.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the required percentile for passing the exam, aiming for the 75th percentile but unsure of what that entails.
  • Another suggests taking the exam in June and possibly retaking it in August if necessary, indicating a flexible approach to preparation.
  • A participant questions whether it is possible to take the exam multiple times, revealing a lack of clarity on the exam's policies.
  • One contributor shares their experience of scoring in the 59th percentile and clarifies that the requirement for acceptance at UC is actually the 50th percentile, not 75th, which leads to confusion regarding the actual passing criteria.
  • Another participant emphasizes the difficulty of the exam and suggests that it contains more questions from Organic I than from Organic II, advising a review of foundational concepts rather than solely focusing on reaction mechanisms.
  • Concerns are raised about the challenging nature of the exam, with one participant describing their struggles in organic chemistry and the pressure of taking both the ACS exam and a professor's exam simultaneously.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the required percentile for passing the exam, with some stating it is 50th percentile and others insisting it is 75th percentile. There is no consensus on the best approach to take the exam, as opinions vary on whether to take it earlier or later.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying experiences with the exam's content and difficulty, highlighting the need for clarity on the exam's policies regarding retakes and scoring requirements. There are also references to specific topics that may be emphasized on the exam, such as thermodynamics and foundational organic chemistry concepts.

Who May Find This Useful

Students preparing for the ACS Organic Chemistry Exam, particularly those transitioning from community college to university-level chemistry courses.

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I have to take this exam in order to transfer my community college organic chem. I need to score in the 75th Percentile (I have no idea what that might be, maybe everyone gets 100s!)

So, anyone take it? How'd you do? Anything unexpected? Advice? I have ordered a study guide for it and I'm still in Organic II now. I can take it proctored at my school when this course ends in late June, or I can take it when I get to Berkeley in August... I'm thinking I might want to consider the later, but I need to make sure I pass in the 75th percentile because if I have to retake Orgo this will throw everything off!

thx!
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Why not take it in June, see how you do, and if necessary take it again in August? You'd have plenty of time to study between the two.
 
Can you do that? I didn't realize, I thought you'd only get one chance. So, I can order the exam to take it in June, then after I take it they will tell me the result and I submit it to the university only if it is high enough?

Have you taken it?

thx!
Angela.
 
I would be astonished if they only let you take it once.

I have never taken the test though; it wasn't required for any of the grad. schools I applied to.
 
I took it two weeks ago. It was pretty tough. My score was 59 percentile. You need 50 percentile for O Chem to be accepted at a UC, not 75 percentile. 50 percentile is average, which comes out to be 75%. You can see how percentile is calculated at http://www.chem.wwu.edu/dept/facstaff/pavia/acsexam.html

One piece of advise: study the acs study guide. It's very helpful! I couldn't haven't gotten that score had I not use the study guide

Good luck
 
Really, because on the Berkeley site it says 75 percentile, NOT 50 percentile. Do you go there?

I have the study guide, it does seem helpful (and tough!).

thx.
-A
 
I took the ACS organic exam last spring. Yes it is very difficult. But if it is any help, I was VERY poor in organic chemistry... it took me an incredibly long time to catch on, and I still did 'above average' for the results in my class.

One thing I didn't think about because I was taking org. II at the time, was there is (I felt) more organic I type questions than mechanism questions. I was really solid on my mechanisms by the end of the two semesters but I felt the ACS exam was more organic I stuff. I honestly remember a lot of thermodynaics type questions also more than anything like stereochemistry and what not.

I wish I could help more, but I would just suggest really reviewing your organic I instead of just memorizing a million different reaction mechanisms. I am trying to remember specific questions but I really can't it was too long back. But definitely review all the thermodynic type stuff like reaction diagrams, transition states, stuff like that.

I think the reaction mechanisms were all fair, there wasn't anything crazy like epoxides or stuff.

Be prepared, not trying to scare you but it sure is hard! My prof was especially evil for our final we had to take that exam AND his exam. And his exam was even worse ! I hate chemistry! aaah
 

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