Advanced Vector Problem: Ships

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The discussion revolves around a vector problem involving three ships A, B, and C, with given velocities. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly identifying the relative velocities, which are defined as the differences between the ships' velocities and that of ship C. There is a consensus that the initial approach mistakenly considered the sum of velocities instead of the differences, leading to confusion. The problem is confirmed to be appropriate for the Precalculus section due to the absence of calculus concepts. Clarifying the relationship between the vectors is essential for solving the problem correctly.
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Homework Statement


Three ships A, B, and C move with velocities \vec{v_{1}} \ \vec{v_{2}} \ \vec{u} respectively. The velocities of A and B relative to C are equal in magnitude and perpendicular. Show that \left | \vec{u} -\frac{1}{2}(\vec{v_{1}} + \vec{v_{2}}) \right |^{2} = \left | \frac{1}{2}(\vec{v_{1}} - \vec{v_{2}}) \right |^{2}

Homework Equations


Algebraic scalar product, vector product(?), magnitude of a vector.

The Attempt at a Solution


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lowea001 said:

Homework Statement


Three ships A, B, and C move with velocities \vec{v_{1}} \ \vec{v_{2}} \ \vec{u} respectively. The velocities of A and B relative to C are equal in magnitude and perpendicular. Show that \left | \vec{u} -\frac{1}{2}(\vec{v_{1}} + \vec{v_{2}}) \right |^{2} = \left | \frac{1}{2}(\vec{v_{1}} - \vec{v_{2}}) \right |^{2}

Homework Equations


Algebraic scalar product, vector product(?), magnitude of a vector.

The Attempt at a Solution


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I can't see very well what you've done. Why not start with the condition that the relative velocities are perpendicular? What does that give you?
 
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The relative velocities are ##\ \vec{v_1}-\vec{u} \ ## and ##\ \vec{v_2}-\vec{u} \ ##

NOT ##\ \vec{v_1}+\vec{u} \ ## and ##\ \vec{v_2}+\vec{u} \ ##
 
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PeroK said:
I can't see very well what you've done. Why not start with the condition that the relative velocities are perpendicular? What does that give you?
I tried scalar product and equating to zero but as SammyS just noticed the problem seems to be in the initial statement that v1 + u is the relative velocity in the first place. Thank you!
 
SammyS said:
The relative velocities are ##\ \vec{v_1}-\vec{u} \ ## and ##\ \vec{v_2}-\vec{u} \ ##

NOT ##\ \vec{v_1}+\vec{u} \ ## and ##\ \vec{v_2}+\vec{u} \ ##
Thank you very much.
 
Moved to Precalc section, as there is no calculus involved.
 

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