Advantages of four probe method

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on the advantages of the four probe method for measuring resistivity, particularly in relation to the elimination of contact and spreading resistance compared to the two probe technique. Participants explore the theoretical underpinnings and practical implications of the method, including circuit behavior and measurement configurations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants explain that in the ideal case of the four probe method, contact resistance is eliminated because the current remains constant throughout the circuit, with the voltmeter measuring only across the sample.
  • Others note that non-ideal effects can arise when measuring samples with very high or low resistance, suggesting that understanding the technique's limitations is important.
  • A participant questions how the current remains constant throughout the resistance, prompting further clarification on circuit theory principles.
  • There is a query regarding whether the potential drop must be measured between the center two terminals in the four probe method, and whether the distances between voltage-measuring probes can be altered.
  • Another participant references the Wenner array for resistivity measurement, indicating a potential alternative method related to the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the four probe method, with some agreeing on the theoretical elimination of contact resistance while others raise questions about practical applications and configurations. The discussion remains unresolved on certain aspects, particularly regarding the flexibility of probe arrangements.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the ideal conditions required for the four probe method to function effectively, as well as the potential for non-ideal effects in real-world measurements. There is also a distinction made between different measurement techniques, such as the series method and the Wenner array, which may influence the discussion.

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how does contact resistance and sprearding resistance gets in eliminated in four probe technique for measuring resistivity in comparison to two probe technique where we encounter these resistances?
 
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It should be fairly obvious if you draw a circuit diagram.
In the ideal case (perfect current source and voltmeter with inifinite input impedance) the series/contact resistance is eliminated simply because the current is the same in the whole circui (no current flows into the voltmeter) and the voltmeter is only measuring across the sample.
Since you know the current and the voltage you then calculate the resistance from Ohms law

Note that there are of course instances where non-ideal effects come into playl; e.g..when measuring samples with very high (several megaohms) or low resistance (milliohms); so it is important to understand how the technique actually works.

Edit: I just realized that I assumed you were referring to "through" measurements (e.g. a resistor), but since you are referring to resistivity you might actually be asking about van der Paw measurements (of e.g. thin films)?
 
May I come to know that how the current remains constant throughout the resistance.
f95toli said:
It should be fairly obvious if you draw a circuit diagram.
In the ideal case (perfect current source and voltmeter with inifinite input impedance) the series/contact resistance is eliminated simply because the current is the same in the whole circui (no current flows into the voltmeter) and the voltmeter is only measuring across the sample.
Since you know the current and the voltage you then calculate the resistance from Ohms law

Note that there are of course instances where non-ideal effects come into playl; e.g..when measuring samples with very high (several megaohms) or low resistance (milliohms); so it is important to understand how the technique actually works.

Edit: I just realized that I assumed you were referring to "through" measurements (e.g. a resistor), but since you are referring to resistivity you might actually be asking about van der Paw measurements (of e.g. thin films)?
 
Well, the current MUST be the same as long as all the components are connected in series, right? That's one of the basic laws of circuit theory; current in=current out.
Hooking up the voltmeter won't change the way the current flows in the circuit, since we can assume that its input impedance is infinite (i.e no current is flowing in the leads going to the voltmeter).
 
thanks for such a kind reply
 
query regarding four probe method

In four probe method, do we 'have' to mearure the potential drop between the center 2 terminals, or, could we swap the functions of the probes...
Also, can we, (theoreticaly), alter the distances between the probes which measure voltage, instead of all the probes being equidistant, that is...?
 
@ Studiot:
I would be referring to the series method... thanks!
 

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