Advice regarding confronting professors about there research

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The discussion revolves around strategies for first-year physics students seeking to engage with professors about potential volunteer research opportunities. Participants share their experiences and advice on how to approach professors, emphasizing the importance of motivation and preparation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests reading professors' web pages to gather information before initiating a conversation.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about their ability to ask intelligent questions regarding research topics.
  • A different participant reassures that professors typically provide basic information on their projects and expect undergraduates to have limited understanding.
  • One participant shares their personal experience of approaching a professor about a project they were unfamiliar with and being encouraged to learn more.
  • A second-year student recounts their successful outreach to a tutor for research suggestions, highlighting the importance of expressing enthusiasm and acknowledging one's lack of knowledge.
  • Several participants agree that professors appreciate students who show initiative and motivation to engage in research outside of classroom requirements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of motivation and preparation when approaching professors, but there is no consensus on the best approach, as individual experiences and comfort levels vary.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the challenges of understanding complex research topics as undergraduates, indicating a potential limitation in their ability to engage deeply with professors initially.

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First-year physics students interested in research opportunities, undergraduate students seeking advice on academic engagement, and those looking to build relationships with faculty members.

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Advice regarding confronting professors about their research

I am a first year physics student and very interested in being involved in research in some capacity (even if that means being a volunteer lab monkey), however most 'official' avenues of undergrad research involvement are through co-op or some sort of NSERC thing that I can't even think about until 2nd year. Can anyone give me tips on how to confront professors about possible volunteer opportunities?

A large motivation of this is getting to know professors and their research which will set me up for my later years as an undergrad when I might actually be able to do something in a research capacity.
 
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1) Read the stuff on their web page if they have one.

2) Go up to them, say "I read the stuff you have on your web page. I want to know MOAR."

They'll talk with you generally. If they tell you they won't accept you, then ask them what you need to do.

It's pretty simple. Learn as much as you can before talking to them and then just talk to them.
 
Poop-Loops said:
2) Go up to them, say "I read the stuff you have on your web page. I want to know MOAR."
I don't think I am at the point where I can ask intelligent questions about their research :-p
 
You don't have to. They usually just have a blurb on their website about the project, at least my profs do. So you go up to them and ask them if they could tell you more and in a way you could understand, because you are interested in the subject.

Being an undergrad, you won't be in any shape to understand their projects deeply. They know that.

Let me give you an example:

I am working on my prof's Axion project now. Did I know what one is when I asked him to give me something to do? Nope. I even told him that. He just told me to learn it. So I did, and still am, because the stuff involved is beyond me at this point, but I'm trying.

Nobody is going to expect you to get them the Nobel Prize. If they can find something for you to do, then they'll probably be happy to let you do it.

I mean really, to give you a very blunt example of what I would do:

Find a topic I am interested in. "Gravity." Cool. Read what it's about. Understood about half of it. Go to professor, say "Hey I like gravity. Is there anything I could do for you?" and it will either end there or you two can talk it out.
 
I'm a 2nd year undergrad now (so I have a slight advantage in that respect) but I e-mailed my tutor asking if he had any suggestions for what someone at my level could submit to apply for an undergrad research bursary from the Nuffield foundation in the UK- expecting some very broad, general advice- and this is the response I got:
"Put down sorting out our galaxy redshift surveys of the southern sky. How about that? If interested come in and see me later this week." :biggrin:
Just tell them that you're keen, and that you accept that you know nothing. Have a go!
 
muppet said:
Just tell them that you're keen, and that you accept that you know nothing. Have a go!

All of the advice in this thread is very good. I think many professors are just happy to see a student that wants to get involved outside of the classroom. A lot of people just go through the motions and fulfill the minimum requirements. Simply being motivated enough to want to do research, especially as a first year student, will place you above others in your class.
 

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