Aerodynamics -- Warehouse fans blowing toward each other

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the airflow dynamics created by warehouse fans positioned to blow air toward each other. Participants explore the implications of this setup on air circulation and cooling effectiveness, with a focus on practical observations and potential experimental approaches.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that fans blowing toward each other create air currents that cancel each other out, leading to a lack of breeze at the midpoint between the fans.
  • Another participant suggests that the middle point may be too far from the fans to receive effective airflow, questioning the specific dynamics at play.
  • A suggestion is made to conduct an experiment using smoke bombs to visualize airflow patterns, with a cautionary note about obtaining necessary permissions and informing relevant parties.
  • Additional emphasis is placed on safety protocols when conducting experiments in a workplace setting, highlighting the importance of communication with management and emergency response teams.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the airflow dynamics between the fans, with some supporting the idea of cancellation of air currents and others questioning the effectiveness of airflow at the midpoint. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact nature of the airflow interactions.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not provided specific details about the types of fans used, which may influence airflow characteristics. There is also a lack of empirical data or diagrams to support claims made in the discussion.

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Hello, all. I work in a warehouse, and in an elevated work area. It's warmer up there because heat rises, but we have a few fans meant to help cool us. Unfortunately, one out of three fans is facing toward another, and I've been trying to explain to my coworkers that if one fan faces another, the air currents basically cancel each other out. We can feel it by standing at equal distance from both of the fans that are blowing toward one another(i.e. you don't feel any kind of breeze if you stand in the middle).

I tried to explain this to one coworker, and he says "No, that's not how air works". I'm 90% sure he just "wanted to be right". Since telling him that much doesn't convince him, I tried searching the web for explanations to support my claim, but none of the results matched this specific scenario. Simple or complex explanations will both be appreciated.
 
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Welcome! :smile:
It seems that the only problematic location, regarding flow of air, is that middle point between those two fans.
Perhaps, that middle point is far enough from the fans to receive poor flow anyways?
What type of fans do you have in your warehouse, axial or centrifugal?
Could you show us a diagram?
 
Clearly, a demonstration is in order. Get a few smoke bombs, and try with the fans in different orientations. Here's a good source: https://www.mcmaster.com/smoke-bombs. Be advised that they have poor shelf life, so buy only what you will use up within a few weeks.

Make sure you get permission from the boss. Management tends to react poorly to surprise experiments. Once upon a time, my summer student lit a smoke bomb underneath a 5 MW hydroelectric generator without warning management. The power company management offices had a floor to ceiling glass wall overlooking that generator. Oops.
 
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jrmichler said:
Make sure you get permission from the boss.
And make sure your Emergency Response Team knows about it so they don't respond. And make sure the neighbors know about it, so they don't call the Fire Department.

Our ERT used to hold annual fire extinguisher training in our parking garage in downtown San Jose, and I always placed a courtesy call to 911 an hour or two ahead of time so they knew that any calls about smoke or white clouds coming from our parking garage were just our training...
 

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