News Afghanistan B747 Crash: Inbalance Loads Lead to Stall

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The discussion centers around a recent aircraft crash, with observations from a video suggesting a sharp pitch up and stall, potentially due to a load shift. A listener reported that the crew indicated the aircraft stalled because the center of gravity exceeded limits, likely caused by imbalanced cargo loads. The responsibility for securing the load falls on the Loadmaster, who is typically part of the crew. There is uncertainty about whether the Loadmaster was a crew member or part of the military ground staff, raising questions about accountability. Speculation about possible sabotage or equipment failure is present, but participants agree that definitive conclusions should await the investigation's findings. The conversation highlights the complexities of cargo management and the potential for both human error and mechanical issues in aviation incidents.
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A hair raising crash

From what can be observed on the video, a sharp pitch up and stall supports the supposition of the article:

According to a listener on frequency the crew reported the aircraft stalled due to a possible load shift.

When the center of gravity exceeds limits, due to inbalanced loads, there is not a lot you can do.

Sad.
 
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That's just nasty.
Who was responsible for securing the load?
 
The "Loadmaster" secures the cargo. He also, according to customary practices, flies on that flight.
 
And he is listed as a member of the crew.
 
Okay. I know about loadmasters in a cohesive unit; in this case I wasn't sure whether it was a crew member or part of the military ground staff. (In the latter case, they wouldn't care if they screwed it up.)
 
I wasn't sure whether it was a crew member or part of the military ground staff. (In the latter case, they wouldn't care if they screwed it up.)

I can't imagine any military member so lackadaisical.

Do you think there could be skullduggery afoot? It'd sure be easy to sabotage a tiedown strap.
 
It is always possible there was some kind of failure even if the cargo was correctly strapped.

The only way to be at least partially sure is to wait till the investigation ends.
 
And today a KC135...


http://www.ajc.com/news/ap/defense/us-military-plane-crashes-in-kyrgyzstan/nXfgh/

One resident of the agricultural and sheep-grazing area said the plane exploded in flight.
 
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Borek said:
It is always possible there was some kind of failure even if the cargo was correctly strapped.

The only way to be at least partially sure is to wait till the investigation ends.

Plus one, you're absolutely right. It could be just as well a flight control failure.
 
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Plus Two! Surmising, guessing, speculating, and so on are completely useless and only stimulate others to try to imagine what happened. Wait for the investigation to be completed. If possible, the cause will become known.
 
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jim hardy said:
And today a KC135...
And again, an unpleasant situation. I'm a bit surprised, because I always thought that tankers carried a flight engineer...
 

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