Air Pressure and flow to power calculations?

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Calculating the power stored in compressed air involves understanding several variables, including atmospheric pressure, density, gravity, height, and velocity. The discussion references Bernoulli's Equation and highlights the challenges of applying it to air due to its compressibility compared to hydraulic fluids. A simpler approach using the formula Power = p * Q is suggested, but it may yield significant errors for air. The total energy content of a gas can be determined using enthalpy, which requires both mechanical and thermodynamic variables. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity on these variables to accurately calculate power in air systems.
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is there any easy way, or relatively easy way, to calculate how much power is stored in a certain amount of air with a certain amount of pressure and flow? i know that's VERY vague, so let's say (random number's being chosen...) 30 psi at 100 cfm.
 
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use Bernoulis Equation.
PE = P_{atm} + \rho gh + \frac{1}{2} \rho v^2

Regards,

Nenad
 
hmm...call me an idiot if you wish. but i guess I am going to have to guess at these variables:

Patm...no idea

p = density
g = no idea
h = no idea
v = velocity

thats bad i know..but could you maybe help me fill in the blanks?
 
Patm is Atomspheric Pressure
g is gravity of course
h is height
 
What exactly are you trying to get to using this? I have a sneaky suspicion I know, but I'd rather know for sure.

In hydraulic systems, one simply uses

Power = p * Q
Where:

p = pressure
Q = Volumetric flow rate

You can do that here, but you'll have some pretty decent errors due to the high compressibility of air vs. hydraulic fluid and availability to do work.
 
infamous_Q said:
is there any easy way, or relatively easy way, to calculate how much power is stored in a certain amount of air with a certain amount of pressure and flow? i know that's VERY vague, so let's say (random number's being chosen...) 30 psi at 100 cfm.

The amount of energy stored by a fluid is its total entalphy:

h_t=e+v^2/2+P/\rho=c_pT+v^2/2(J/Kg) in the case of an ideal gas.

In order to determine the total content of energy of a gas you need a mechanic variable such us velocity and two thermodynamic variables (P,T). If the flow is at low Mach numbers, it is only needed one thermodynamic variable and one mechanic variable because thermal and mechanical states become discoupled.
 
thanks guys. hey Fred...what's this sneaky suspicion you have? lol. also..how big would that margin of error be? and I'm assuming pressure is kpa and flow rate is m^3/s...(although i really think I'm wrong with the Q unit)
 
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