Air Resistance and Projectile Motion Assignment Task

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The discussion revolves around a physics assessment task related to projectile motion and air resistance, specifically focusing on determining the minimum angle required for a bus to successfully jump a gap of 27 meters while traveling at a velocity of 30 m/s. Participants are addressing the complexities introduced by air resistance and the specifics of the problem setup.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to clarify the problem's parameters, including the effects of air resistance and the geometry of the jump. Questions have been raised about the height of the opposite side of the gap, the computation of drag, and the rotational dynamics of the bus once it leaves the incline. Some suggest simplifying the problem by ignoring certain factors, such as the bus's length or drag.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem and raising critical questions about the assumptions involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding potential simplifications, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original poster has not been taught about projectile motion with air resistance, which adds to the complexity of the task. There is also mention of specific values related to drag force, air density, and the bus's drag coefficient, which are relevant to the problem but not fully understood by the original poster.

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1. Hi, I'm currently in my second last year of high school (Australia) and my Physics assessment task is all about cars, however, a stimulus Item is the Movie Speed, long story short, I need to find the minimum angle required, including air resistance at a velocity of 30 m/s.
2. I have tried almost every website, and I will get halfway through their steps, and something completely out of context comes through, take in note that we have never been taught projectile motion including air resistance.
3. Drag force = 7.79 Newtons
air density = 0.0013
Bus's drag co-efficient =0.8
Area of the front of the bus = 7m^2
I somehow found out that the Δt= 6.122 seconds
and i get fairly stuck after that.
and the jump is 27m
 
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With any problem, your first is to formulate the problem exactly and precisely. You have not done so; in fact, it is not even clear what the problem is about.
 
voko said:
With any problem, your first is to formulate the problem exactly and precisely. You have not done so; in fact, it is not even clear what the problem is about.

The question is finding the minimum angle the bus would have to jump off to make 27m jump, (jump is 15m, but av. bus length is 12m), taking air resistance into account.
 
So there is a bus. Its length is 12 m. It goes at 30 m/s up an incline with some unknown angle to the horizontal. The incline ends and there is a gap whose length is 15 meters. It is still unclear:

1. Is the opposite side at the same height as the edge of the incline?

2. How do you compute drag?

3. Are you supposed to take into account that as soon as the front wheels leave the incline, the bus begins to rotate?
 
I think you would need to simplify the problem first.
1. Do not consider the bus's length.
2. Can you calculate the angle without taking drag into account?
 

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