Air Resistance & Upward Velocity: Examining the Relationship

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the relationship between air resistance and the upward velocity of a ball thrown into the air. Participants explore how air resistance behaves as the ball's upward velocity changes, considering both theoretical implications and mathematical formulations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that air resistance could decrease as the upward velocity of the ball decreases, suggesting a dependency on the motion of the ball.
  • Others argue that air resistance might increase immediately after the ball is thrown and could remain constant even as the ball decelerates due to gravity.
  • A participant emphasizes that before the ball is released, a force is applied, but once released, the ball moves with its own velocity, which affects the air resistance it encounters.
  • Another participant introduces a mathematical formulation to describe the relationship between mass, velocity, and air resistance, indicating that air resistance is influenced by factors such as air density.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how air resistance behaves in relation to the ball's upward velocity, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of air resistance and its dependence on velocity, but these assumptions are not universally accepted among participants. The mathematical formulation presented relies on specific conditions that may not be fully explored.

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If air resistance increases with velocity, then if a ball is thrown upwards, does air resistance decrease as the upward velocity of the ball decreases or does it only increase and remains constant when the upward velocity of the ball decreases?
 
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MarcusK said:
If air resistance increases with velocity, then if a ball is thrown upwards, does air resistance decrease as the upward velocity of the ball decreases or does it only increase and remains constant when the upward velocity of the ball decreases?

What do you think? And why?
 
Not getting clear in your last line.
 
PeroK said:
What do you think? And why?
it's in the question: I think that "air resistance could decrease as the upward velocity of the ball decreases or it could increase and then remain constant even when the upward velocity of the ball decreases" Air resistance could decrease because it is strictly dependent on air resistance, i.e. air resistance opposes motion, therefore increasing when the object has a velocity or is accelerating. Or Air resistance could increase right after the ball leaves the hand of the person who threw the ball, and remain constant at that amount of opposing force even if the object begins to decelerate due to gravity.
 
Before the release, we might have been applying the force but just after the release we are not applying any force, the ball has inherited the motion of the hands, and it is having its own velocity.
Now why to take the gravity, to know about the behavior we should go special instead of going through complicated situations.
So, after initial velocity, the air resists it let for 'dt' time, then its velocity decreases, now in again another 'dt' time it encounters with less no. Of air particles which can be calculated by the product of its velocity at that instant and dt time.
This way we conclude to the formulae

M. (dv/dt) = - k. v = - k. (ds/dt)
Where k depends on quality of air., density of air.
 

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