Airplane and wind speed problem I can't figure out

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving an airplane's response to wind forces. Participants explore the conditions necessary for the wind to rotate the airplane 90 degrees around a pivot point, considering factors such as weight, pivot mechanics, and the nature of the wind's application.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states the airplane weighs 6,000 lbs and is positioned on the ground with one back wheel as a pivot, questioning how fast the wind must blow to rotate the front wheel 90 degrees.
  • Another participant highlights the need for additional information, such as the units of weight and the mechanics of how the wind interacts with the airplane.
  • After clarification, the wind is confirmed to blow directly into the side of the airplane with no angle, and a hypothetical time duration of 5 minutes is suggested for the problem.
  • A later post suggests that if the wheel bearings are sufficiently frictionless, even a gentle breeze could theoretically cause the airplane to rotate.
  • Another participant proposes relating the moment created by the wind to the airplane's weight at the center of gravity about the pivot point.
  • One participant humorously suggests that in the absence of friction and air drag, a small force could cause the airplane to spin indefinitely.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of agreement on the mechanics of the problem, with some proposing that minimal force could suffice under ideal conditions, while others emphasize the need for a more detailed analysis of forces and moments involved. No consensus is reached on the exact wind speed required.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the problem, such as the lack of specific details regarding the wind's force application and the absence of friction or drag considerations, which could significantly affect the outcome.

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Homework Statement



Ok, an airplane weighs 6,000 (think of the airplane as a triangle) and one of the back two wheels is stationary and acts as a pivot. The airplane is on the ground. How fast does the wind need to be blowing to push the front wheel 90 degrees from the original location? Keep in mind the wheel is just dragged and provides no rolling support.
 
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You need way more information then that. 6000 what? Is there a time duration this takes place in? How is the wind pushing on the airplane? More details...
 
Sorry, it weighs 6,000 lbs. The wind is blowing directly into the side of the plane with no angle. Also, no time duration was given. If the problem needs a time, use, say, 5 minutes.
 
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Homework Statement



An airplane weighs 6,000 lbs. It is parked on the ground and one of it's back wheels acts as a pivot and can't move (the other back wheel and front wheel can move). Assuming that the wind is blowing directly into side the plane and not at any angle, what is the wind speed required to spin the plane so that the front wheel is 90 degrees from where it started? Don't consider time constraints, just one big gush of wind.
 
If the wheel bearings are frictionless enough, you could do it just by blowing on it.
 


Zauce just relate the moment created by the wind to the plane's weight at the CG about the pivoting point
 
(two threads merged into one...)
 
I like tiny-tim's answer; give it a quick breath on its nose and the darn thing, in absence of friction and air drag, will spin forever...
 

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