Can anyone estimate the speed of a vehicle in a car accident without skid marks?

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The discussion revolves around estimating the speed of a vehicle involved in a car accident where no skid marks were left. Participants explore various aspects of the incident, including the physics of the collision, potential legal implications, and the feasibility of hiring an accident investigator.

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  • One participant describes the specifics of the accident, including the angles of impact, distances moved, and weights of the vehicles involved, seeking formulas to estimate the other vehicle's speed.
  • Another participant references legal responsibilities in similar accidents, suggesting that the driver backing out may be held liable regardless of the other driver's speed.
  • A different participant mentions that insurance may claim a 50/50 fault in the incident and discusses the potential for retrieving speed data from the other vehicle's onboard computer.
  • One participant shares a personal experience with insurance claims following an accident, advising caution regarding legal actions and the costs involved.
  • Another participant asserts that accident reconstruction is complex and cautions against relying on online discussions for accurate estimations.

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Participants express differing views on the legal implications of the accident and the reliability of estimating speed based on the provided information. There is no consensus on the best approach to take regarding legal action or the methods for estimating speed.

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Participants acknowledge the limitations of estimating speed without detailed analysis and the complexities involved in accident reconstruction. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding regarding legal responsibilities and insurance processes.

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So I know that a few of these questions have been posted previously but I also understand that each circumstance is different in regards to each aspect so I figured I would post the question and see if anyone can assist me at all. Whether it be out of the goodness of your heart or in exchange for some type of info that I may have I don't mind. But anyways...

I was involved in a car accident in my office parking lot. I was backing out of my spot and was hit right behind my rear wheel at a 90 degree angle and pushed 79.5 inches (from the rubber marks from my vehicle) with my car coming to a stop at roughly a 150 degree angle and hers remaining at the same angle of collision which was a 90 degree impact.

My vehicle has an approximate weight of 3,439 lbs and the other drivers vehicle weighs roughly 4,425 lbs according to specs. My car did not move completely straight obviously, it followed a curve similar to that of a clock (assuming main pivot point is the front of my vehicle) The other vehicle left no skid marks as she did not even apply her brakes. Is there any formula that can be used to estimate her vehicles speed assuming that we don't include the lost energy due to my rear quarter caving in (her vehicle had nearly no damage). If there are multiple formulas does anybody know which one would be best?

Thank you in advance for any help you may have. I am primarily trying to figure out whether it will be something that I should hire a legit accident investigator for. Thank you again!
 
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If your state law on this type of event is the same as Texas law, if this occurred on a public road you would be charged with the accident regardless of her speed because the driver of a car backing or entering into a thoroughfare is responsible regardless of other factors unless the other driver can be shown to have intentionally not acted to avoid the accident.

As a result, this precedent is likely to preside in any civil action you might seek for your accident that occurred on private property. Your best first move is to consult with a reliable attorney to get that attorney's opinion on the viability of your position.
 
It was in a parking lot so in Massachusetts police do not take a report on it (that is what the officer said). Insurance is most likely going to claim 50/50. I am preparing to fight it regardless as the woman was clearly speeding and not even paying attention/didn't even apply her brakes, etc. All vehicles I believe have a computer monitoring process that can give me her speed prior to the accident regardless it is just a matter of getting an order for her to release the results. As of now I am just trying to see if anyone knows what formula I would use to see if her speed is going to be worth hiring an attorney/accident investigator/etc
 
First, let me state that I am not an attorney and all of my statements are based on my past experiences.
In one incident where a woman backed out into the side of my passing car in our apartment parking lot, her insurance immediately paid the full amount of my claim with no questions asked.
Once a file is claimed, any legal action in resolving the claim is generally fully taken over by the insurance company. As long as you have not signed any waivers during this process then you may be able to file a civil suit; but, you should review this with your insurance company to see what their position is on this issue before spending any money pursuing possible legal actions of your own.
Also, you need to balance your actual insurance claim costs against all of the costs associated with investigating and pursuing your legal actions, keeping in mind, that unless you can show some associated significant physical injury there is most likely no attorney that will take your case on a contingency basis, so if you don't get a favorable verdict that includes all attorney fees and court costs you will stuck with all of those.
I understand that you frustrated by what has happened but it is best not to file a suit based upon revenge when the ultimate financial consequences are not guaranteed to be in your favor.
 
Accident reconstruction is far too involved to base any kind of statement on a description in an anonymous internet forum. Any response would at best be an unreliable guess. Thread closed.
 

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