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The discussion revolves around proving that if all eigenvalues of a linear transformation T: V --> V are zero, then T must be the zero transformation. Participants explore various aspects of linear algebra, particularly focusing on the implications of eigenvalues and matrix representations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Some participants attempt to establish the connection between eigenvalues and the zero transformation through matrix representations in different bases. Others question the generality of the original claim and provide counterexamples where the assertion may not hold.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering insights and clarifications regarding the proof. There is recognition of potential typos and misunderstandings, but also a shared exploration of the implications of the properties of Hermitian operators and diagonalization.

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Some participants note that the discussion is limited to finite-dimensional linear algebra, and there are mentions of specific matrix forms that challenge the original assertion. The conversation also touches on the importance of coordinate representations and their role in proving the theorem.

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I want to prove that if all the eigenvalues of a linear transformation T : V --> V are zero, then T = 0. I think this is obvious but I'm having difficulty putting it into words.

If all the eigenvalues of T are zero, then there exists a basis B for V in which [T]_B is the zero matrix. Thus [T(v)]_B=[T]^B_B[v]_B = 0\; \forall v \in V.

I think I should show that the matrix representation of T in an arbitrary basis D is zero. We have from second year linear algebra [id]^B_D [T]^B_B [id]^D_B = [T]^D_D.
Thus

[T(v)]_D = [T]^D_D [v]_D = [id]^B_D [T]^B_B [id]^D_B [v]_B = 0[v]_D = 0.

But v \in V is abritrary so [T]^D_D [v]_D = 0 \; \forall [v]_D \in \mathbb{F}^n where \mathbb{F} is the base field. Hence T = 0.

Is this correct?
 
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noospace said:
I want to prove that if all the eigenvalues of a linear transformation T : V --> V are zero, then T = 0.
This is not a theorem! There are at least two ways this can fail:

This matrix over the reals has only one eigenvalue, 0. (It has 3 over the complexes, of course)
<br /> \left(<br /> \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\<br /> 0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 \\<br /> 0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br />

This matrix over any field has only one eigenvalue, 0, of (algebraic) multiplicity 2.
<br /> \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> 0 &amp; 1 \\<br /> 0 &amp; 0<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br />
 
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By the way, you don't have to deal with that "arbitrary basis" stuff.

The zero linear transformation from V to W is the linear transformation such that, for every v in V,
Tv = 0.​

If you can find a basis so that the coordinate representation of T is the zero matrix, then it's easy to show that T is the zero transformation.

(Recall that two functions f and g are equal if and only if f(x) = g(x) for every input x)
 
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noospace said:
[T]^D_D [v]_D = [id]^B_D [T]^B_B [id]^D_B [v]_B
That doesn't look right: [v]_D and [v]_B are usually different.

Oh, but I think it's just a typo, because you switched back to [v]_D in the next expression.


You could have done the basis calculation in a shorter way:
<br /> [T(v)]_D = [id]_D^B [T(v)]_B = [id]_D^B 0 = 0.<br />
Other than your typo, I think you did the basis manipulations correctly.
 
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Hi Hurkyl,

You're right, my theorem is a little bit too general.

Let T be an Hermitian linear operator.

Now I think it's okay.

And yes, that's a typo.

Btw, I don't see any other "easy" way to the proof based on what you said about equal functions.
 
(caveat: this is only for finite-dimensional linear algebra. I'm not sure what generalizes properly to infinite dimensions)


That sounds fine; Hermitian matrices are diagonalizable over the reals, and I believe that is sufficient to prove your theorem. (BTW, you can do the proof by working directly with the diagonalized form!)
 
noospace said:
Btw, I don't see any other "easy" way to the proof based on what you said about equal functions.

Starting from
For every v, [T(v)]_B = 0 = [0]_B​
it follows that
For every v, T(v) = 0
and thus
T = 0.​
 
Yeah, but to get from assumption to therefore you need what I said right? Like l said it's obvious.
 
noospace said:
Yeah, but to get from assumption to therefore you need what I said right? Like l said it's obvious.
It follows simply because the coordinate representation is faithful:
v = w \text{\ if and only if\ } [v]_B = [w]_B.
Of course, your way is correct too.
 
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Hurkyl said:
(BTW, you can do the proof by working directly with the diagonalized form!)
*bonks self* I just realized this is exactly what you are doing when you said you could find a basis relative to which T's coordiante representation is the zero matrix!
 
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Right, like saying [\cdot]_B: V \to \mathbb{F}^n is injective. Thanks.
 

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