Alternator Field Winding Question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the operation and specifications of a 1979 Sencenbaugh wind generator's alternator, specifically focusing on the field winding and its power requirements. Participants explore the relationship between the field winding's resistance, the power supplied, and the implications for charging a battery bank.

Discussion Character

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates that to deliver 60 watts to the field winding at 13.5 volts, approximately 4.4 amps would be required, but measures the resistance at 6.5 Ohms, which limits the power to about 30 watts.
  • Another participant notes that the specification of 60 watts is a maximum and suggests that varying the field current could optimize performance.
  • A participant expresses concern about the feasibility of delivering 60 watts continuously due to the resistance in the field winding, concluding that increasing wattage isn't possible under current conditions.
  • One participant confirms that the alternator appears to be functioning correctly based on voltage readings at different RPMs.
  • Suggestions are made regarding the use of a manual switch to disconnect the field winding from the battery when not in use and the potential for using a car regulator for better management of the field current.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the alternator is functioning, but there is disagreement regarding the optimal approach to powering the field winding and whether it is feasible to maintain 60 watts continuously.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the relationship between voltage, current, and resistance, as well as the implications of using a manual switch and regulator, which remain unresolved.

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have an older 12 volt battery-charging 1979 Sencenbaugh wind generator that I am testing. It has an 3 phase alternator with a field winding that must be excited, as opposed to the newer "permanent magnet" alternators. The manual says that 60 watts maximum should go to the field winding. According to theory, amps= watts over volts, so the amps to the field winding should be 60watts (the desired wattage to the field winding)/13.5 volts (battery bank at full charge). So the amps comes out to 4.4 amps. I just measured the Ohms off of the 2 field winding wires, and it came out to 6.5 Ohms, which allows only 30 watts to the field windings. So the big question is, how can I deliver 60 watts to my field winding? By the way, I won't be regulating the wattage to the field winding- I intend to keep 60 watts continually hooked up to the winding. I'm not an electrical engineer, I am self-taught, so I hope I'm thinking this out correctly. Thanks.
 
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doubledipsoon said:
The manual says that 60 watts maximum should go to the field winding.
The key word in that specification is maximum. Generator output is typically controlled by varying the field current. If you can get the desired output power at a lower field current you are ahead of the game. Go for it.

Out of curiousity, you state:
doubledipsoon said:
I intend to keep 60 watts continually hooked up to the winding.
Where are those watts coming from? Why not just use them to charge the battery directly?

Cheers,
Tom
 
Hi Tom, the watts are coming from a battery bank that the wind generator alternator will be charging...Since the measured ohms off the field winding is 6.60, the watts delivered to the field windings is about 30 watts (watts = amps x ohms). So increasing the wattage isn't possible because of the resistance (ohms) in the wiring of the field winding won't allow any wattage above 30 watts- this is what I've concluded...I went ahead and hooked up the field winding to my 12 volt battery bank (13.5 volts), hooked up the 3 phase alternator to a DC rectifier, spun the alternator, and the volt meter registered 1, 2, 3...10 volts with increasing rpm (I could only spin it at about 120 rpm This alternator puts out 14 volts max at about 275 rpm. I think it's working fine, right? PS: At this point, I'm not going to regulate the field winding, but am willing to figure out how)
 
I agree it seems to be working OK.
I suggest at least a manual switch to disconnect the field from the battery bank when not in use.
An appropriate regulator would be one one from a car. And they disconnect from the battery until the alternator exceed the battery voltage. They are readily available, even at a junkyard if there is one close by.

Have Fun! (You will certainly get a workout cranking that thing.)
Tom
 

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