Am I using quotient spaces correctly in this linear algebra proof?

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the properties of quotient spaces in linear algebra, specifically the relationship between a vector space \(X\) and its subspace \(Y\). It is established that if \(\dim Y = \dim X\), then \(X/Y = \{0\}\) and consequently \(X = Y\). The proof relies on the definition of equivalence classes and the properties of linear independence, span, and bases. The participants confirm that the existence of \(X/Y\) is valid for any vector space \(X\) with a linear subspace \(Y\).

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of vector spaces and subspaces
  • Knowledge of equivalence classes in linear algebra
  • Familiarity with the concept of linear independence and spanning sets
  • Proficiency in using bases for vector spaces
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the properties of short exact sequences in vector spaces
  • Learn about the implications of linear transformations on quotient spaces
  • Explore the concept of linear independence in greater depth
  • Review theorems related to spans and bases in linear algebra
USEFUL FOR

Students and educators in mathematics, particularly those focusing on linear algebra, as well as researchers interested in the theoretical aspects of vector spaces and quotient spaces.

Eclair_de_XII
Messages
1,082
Reaction score
91
Homework Statement
Let ##X## be a vector space and ##Y## a subspace with ##\dim Y = \dim X##. Prove that ##Y=X##.
Relevant Equations
Quotient space of X mod Y:

##X/Y=\{x_1,x_2\in X:\,x_1-x_2\in Y\}##

Equivalence class of x w.r.t. quotient space:

##\{x\}_Y=\{x_0\in X:\,x_0-x\in Y\}\subset X/Y##

Theorem:

##\dim Y + \dim {X/Y} = \dim X##
%%%

Assume that ##X/Y## is defined. Since ##\dim Y = \dim X##, it follows that ##\dim {X/Y}=0## and that ##X/Y=\{0\}##.

Suppose that ##Y## is a proper subspace of ##X##. Then there is an ##x\in X## such that ##x\notin Y##.

Let us consider the equivalence class:

##\{x\}_Y=\{x_0\in X:\,x_0-x\in Y\}##

This is a subset of ##X/Y=\{0\}##, which means that because ##\{x\}_Y## is a vector space, ##\{0\}\subset \{x\}_Y##. Hence, ##\{x\}_Y=\{0\}##.

This implies that ##0-x\in Y## and that ##x\in Y##, since ##Y## is closed under scalar multiplication. This contradicts the fact that ##x\notin Y##.

Hence, there cannot be an ##x\in X## that is not in ##Y##. Thus, ##X=Y##.

%%%

I am a bit worried about the existence of ##X/Y##. Is it defined for every vector space? I am also worried that I am misinterpreting the meaning of quotient spaces and equivalence classes.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Delta2
Physics news on Phys.org
It's a bit complicated but correct. You have a subspace ##Y\subseteq X##. Then you can choose a basis ##\{x_1,\ldots,x_m,x_{m+1},\ldots,x_n\}## where ##m=\dim Y## and ##n=\dim X##. With ##m=n## you get ##X=Y##. But of course, this is proven along the lines of quotient spaces. As often, the essential point is: what are you allowed to use?
Eclair_de_XII said:
I am a bit worried about the existence of ##X/Y.## Is it defined for every vector space?
For every vector space ##X## and every subspace ##Y##. It only requires that ##Y## is a linear space.
I am also worried that I am misinterpreting the meaning of quotient spaces and equivalence classes.
No. You were right. As mentioned above: the easy way with bases is proven by the fact - and now comes the real reason why your proof works: every short exact sequence ##Y\rightarrowtail X \twoheadrightarrow X/Y## in the category of vector spaces splits, i.e. there is a monomorphism ##X/Y \rightarrowtail X## such that the composition of these homomorphisms is the identity on ##X/Y##.

This is not true in the category of groups, but it is for vector spaces. It simply means that ##x_{m+1}+Y,\ldots,x_n+Y## is a basis of ##X/Y## with the basis as described above.
 
fresh_42 said:
As often, the essential point is: what are you allowed to use?

Everything before page twenty-five of Linear Algebra and its Applications by Peter Lax. And this includes that theorem I cited. And I did learn about linear independence, span, bases, sums of vector spaces, theorems pertaining to those sums, quotient spaces, and equivalence classes that partition those spaces. Oh, and that theorem I cited.

fresh_42 said:
As mentioned above: the easy way with bases is proven by the fact

Does that proof go something like:

%%%

Let ##S_X=x_1,...,x_n## be a basis for ##X## and ##S_Y=y_1,..,y_n## be a basis for ##Y##.

Suppose ##S_Y## does not span ##X##. Then there is ##x_i## that cannot be written as a linear combination of the vectors in ##S_Y##.

Hence, the sequence ##x_i,y_1,...,y_n## is linearly independent.

Suppose it spans ##X##. Then it is a basis of ##X## of length ##n+1##. This contradicts the fact that every basis of ##X## must have exactly ##n## elements.

If it does not, continue checking the vectors of ##S_X## until we have a basis for ##X## of length at least ##n+2## and at most ##2n>n##.

Either way, this is a contradiction. ##S_Y## must span ##X## as a result.

%%%
 

Similar threads

Replies
26
Views
3K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
Replies
0
Views
554
Replies
20
Views
4K
Replies
34
Views
3K
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
3K
Replies
3
Views
2K