Amount of black hole entropy inside the Universe?

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The discussion centers on the concept of entropy within the universe, specifically focusing on the comparison between the entropy of black holes and the rest of the universe. It is established that black holes possess significantly higher entropy, with estimates of stellar-mass black holes reaching 1098 bits, while the entropy from cosmic microwave background radiation is approximately 1090 bits. The calculation of the absolute entropy of the universe is based on the known composition of ordinary matter and photons, allowing for a comparative analysis against black hole entropy. The reference provided for further reading is "Entropy in the Universe" by John Carlos Baez.

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Now, it's been said that the majority of the entropy in the universe resides within the cumulative entropy of black holes inside the universe. How do they know that?
Now, I'm not so interested in how they determine the black hole's entropy, I know there's a relatively simple formula for that. What I'm curious to know is how do they know what the absolute entropy of the rest of the universe is to compare it to the black holes within it?
 
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bbbl67 said:
Now, it's been said
By whom? Where?
 
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In order to answer we need references please.
 
Please PM me when you have the reference you wish to discuss and I will reopen the thread for you. In the meantime, I have closed it to reduce the number of “we need references” replies
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Here's the reference:
Entropy in the Universe | Azimuth
https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2020/01/25/entropy-in-the-universe/

The entropy in all the photons in the Universe is even more! The Universe is full of radiation left over from the Big Bang. The photons in the observable Universe left over from the Big Bang have a total entropy of about 1090 bits. It’s called the ‘cosmic microwave background radiation’.

Black holes have immensely more entropy than anything listed so far. Egan and Lineweaver estimate the entropy of stellar-mass black holes in the observable Universe at 1098 bits. This is connected to why black holes are so stable: the Second Law says entropy likes to increase.
 
bbbl67 said:
how do they know what the absolute entropy of the rest of the universe is
Because we know what "the rest of the universe" is made of: ordinary matter and photons. And we know how to calculate the entropy of those things.
 
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