Ampere's Law: Find |H| at (6cm, 9cm, 0) in Toroid

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The problem involves calculating the magnetic field intensity |H| at a specific point in a toroidal coil. The toroid has a defined number of turns, current, and geometric parameters, and the task is to determine |H| at the coordinates (6cm, 9cm, 0).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the formula for calculating |H| and the significance of the radius in relation to the point of interest. There is confusion regarding the terms H1 and H2, with some participants questioning their relevance and the method of summation. Others seek clarification on the meaning of the parameters 'a' and 'p'.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications and questioning assumptions. Some have offered insights into the formula for |H|, while others are exploring the implications of the geometric parameters on the calculation.

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There is uncertainty regarding the interpretation of the parameters 'a' and 'p', as well as the correct application of the formula for |H| in relation to the specific point in the toroid.

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1. Homework Statement

A toroid of a circular cross section whose center is at the origin and the axis the same as the z-axis has 1000 turns with po=10cm, a=1cm. If the toroid carries a 100mA current, find |H| at (6cm, 9cm, 0).



2. Homework Equations

How do I calculate |H| at certain points?



3. The Attempt at a Solution

Knowing that H = NI / 2*pi*po, and po - a < p < po + a, I have found p to be between 9cm and 11 cm.

I assumed H = H1 + H2.

If H1 = ((1000)(0.1) / 2 * pi * 0.9) * (0.06x + 0.09y) = 10.61x + 15.92y
Similarly, H2 is the same except p = 0.11 m. Therefore H2=8.68x + 13.02y.

After adding the two, and then finding the magnitude I get 34.8 A/m, but the answer is 147.1 A/m.
 
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I don't know what H1 and H2 are and you don't explain. Look, you have a formula that gives H as a function of the radius. Everywhere at that radius the field is the same. So, at what radius is point (6 cm, 9 cm, 0)?
 
H1 and H2 are H, except one is calculated at 9cm and one is calculated at 11cm. H, I'm assuming, is the sum.
 
No it is not the sum. At a given radius r

[tex]H=\mu_{0}\frac{N I}{2\pi r}[/tex]

The above expression says "You give me the radius, I will give you H."

So, at what radius is point (6 cm, 9 cm, 0)?
 
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Ok thank you! That helps a lot. Even if I do find 'r', what do I do with the a and p values?
 
What do the a and p values represent?
 

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