An integration problem using trigonometric substitution

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The forum discussion centers on solving the integral ##\int\sqrt{1+9y^2} dy## using trigonometric substitution. The substitution ##9y^2=\tan^2\theta## transforms the integral into ##\int\sqrt{1+\tan^2\theta} d\theta##, which simplifies to ##\int\sec\theta d\theta##. Participants suggest using hyperbolic substitution as an alternative, emphasizing the importance of expressing ##\sec\theta## in terms of ##y## and utilizing reduction formulas for integration. The discussion concludes with various methods to approach the integral, including integration by parts and hyperbolic identities.

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  • #31
mech-eng said:
Now it seems that I can solve ##\sec^3\theta## hence I can solve the question. This is my result I have arrived at. Would you please check it?

##sec\theta=\frac {\sqrt {\frac13^2~+y^2}} {\frac13} ##

##\frac13\int sec^3\theta=\frac13 3\sqrt{{\frac13}^2+y^2}~~3y+\frac13 \frac12 ln |sec\theta+tan\theta|##

Substituting the values obtained and cancelling out,

##\frac13\int sec^3\theta=3\sqrt{\frac13^2+y^2}~~y+\frac16ln|\frac {\sqrt{\frac13^2+y^2}}{\frac13}|##

In the end, is this the solution?

P.S: When I asked this question, I thought this was a very straightforward and short question with a few easy steps.

Remember the integration constant C.

Here is what I get:##\frac{1}{3} \int sec^3(\theta) d\theta = \frac{1}{6} (9y \cdot \sqrt{(\frac{1}{3})^2 + y^2}## ##+ \ln \left|3 \big(\sqrt{(\frac{1}{3})^2 + y^2} + y) \right|)##+ C
 
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  • #32
mech-eng said:
Now it seems that I can solve ##\sec^3\theta## hence I can solve the question. This is my result I have arrived at. Would you please check it?

##sec\theta=\frac {\sqrt {\frac13^2~+y^2}} {\frac13} ##

##\frac13\int sec^3\theta=\frac13 3\sqrt{{\frac13}^2+y^2}~~3y+\frac13 \frac12 ln |sec\theta+tan\theta|##

Substituting the values obtained and cancelling out,

##\frac13\int sec^3\theta=3\sqrt{\frac13^2+y^2}~~y+\frac16ln|\frac {\sqrt{\frac13^2+y^2}}{\frac13}|##

In the end, is this the solution?

P.S: When I asked this question, I thought this was a very straightforward and short question with a few easy steps.

You can check it for yourself: just differentiate the "answer" and see if it delivers the original integrand. This is something that you should get in the habit of doing, every time.
 
  • #33
The original problem
##\int\sqrt{1+9y^2}dy##
can be solved without any substitution , just integrating by parts:
##\int{\sqrt{1+9y^2}(1)dy}=\sqrt{1+9y^2}y-\int{\frac {9y^2}{\sqrt{1+9y^2}}dy}##
Add and subtract 1 to the numerator of the fraction in the integral, it decomposes into two terms, one is the original integral, the other integral is a basic one. :smile:
 
  • #34
ehild said:
The original problem
##\int\sqrt{1+9y^2}dy##
can be solved without any substitution , just integrating by parts:
##\int{\sqrt{1+9y^2}(1)dy}=\sqrt{1+9y^2}y-\int{\frac {9y^2}{\sqrt{1+9y^2}}dy}##
Add and subtract 1 to the numerator of the fraction in the integral, it decomposes into two terms, one is the original integral, the other integral is a basic one. :smile:

I don't understand what you do here mostly because there is no fraction in the original problem. It is just a square root of square of an expression of y.
 
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  • #35
mech-eng said:
I don't understand what you do here mostly because there is no fraction in the original problem. It is just a square of an expression of y.
It is the integral in the second line.
 

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