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The BA.2 variant of COVID-19 is showing increased transmissibility compared to the original BA.1 variant, with studies indicating that it may be more pathogenic and capable of evading vaccine-induced immunity. The CDC is actively monitoring BA.2, noting that there is currently no evidence suggesting it is more severe than BA.1. In the U.S., BA.2 has risen to account for nearly a quarter of new infections, particularly in the Northeast, where it has become dominant. New subvariants BA.2.12 and BA.2.12.1 have also emerged, showing a growth advantage and raising concerns due to additional mutations. Overall, the situation indicates a potential increase in cases, but the public health response continues to adapt as data evolves.
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Popular article referring to the BA.2 variant:
"It might be, from a human's perspective, a worse virus than BA.1 and might be able to transmit better and cause worse disease," says Dr. Daniel Rhoads, section head of microbiology at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio. Rhoads reviewed the study but was not involved in the research.

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is keeping close watch on BA.2, said its director, Dr. Rochelle Walensky.

"There is no evidence that the BA.2 lineage is more severe than the BA.1 lineage. CDC continues to monitor variants that are circulating both domestically and internationally," she said Friday. "We will continue to monitor emerging data on disease severity in humans and findings from papers like this conducted in laboratory settings."

Popular article: (many words, little data)
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/17/health/ba-2-covid-severity/index.html

Preprint article referring to the BA.2 variant:
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Soon after the emergence and global spread of a new severe acute respiratory syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) Omicron lineage, BA.1 (ref), another Omicron lineage, BA.2, has initiated outcompeting BA.1. Statistical analysis shows that the effective reproduction number of BA.2 is 1.4-fold higher than that of BA.1. Neutralisation experiments show that the vaccine-induced humoral immunity fails to function against BA.2 like BA.1, and notably, the antigenicity of BA.2 is different from BA.1. Cell culture experiments show that BA.2 is more replicative in human nasal epithelial cells and more fusogenic than BA.1. Furthermore, infection experiments using hamsters show that BA.2 is more 1,2 pathogenic than BA.1. Our multiscale investigations suggest that the risk of BA.2 for global health is potentially higher than that of BA.1.

Preprint article: (At 52 pages, too many words!)
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.02.14.480335v1.full.pdf

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The relative prevalence of BA.2 does seem to be increasing both at the worldwide level (as assessed by sequencing data from GISAID from NextStrain) as well as in the US (as assessed by sequencing data from the US CDC):

Here's the GISAID data from NextStrain, with BA.2 being the darker orange color that has been steadily rising in prevalence from Jan-Feb:
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https://nextstrain.org/ncov/gisaid/global

Here's the CDC data showing the increasing prevalence of BA.2 (indicated as the pink color) over the past few weeks:
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https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions

These data support the idea that it is more transmissible than the original Omicron BA.1 variant. It remains to be seen whether it can cause a new wave of infections or whether it is similar enough to BA.1 that vaccines and prior infections are able to provide sufficient immunity to prevent another major wave of cases.

I remember there being similar concern about the AY.4.2 variant of Delta, where similar data had suggested increased transmissibility over the original Delta strain, but this variant never caused a major wave of infection (mainly because Omicron overtook it and the other Delta variants).
 
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From, https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00558-w
"Topol says the study’s results mean that many communities can relax. “Instead of thinking that [BA.2] is the new bad variant, I think we can put that aside. I see it as not a worry,” he says."
 
March 15, 2022 - CBS News / Omicron BA.2 sub-variant now nearly a quarter of new COVID cases in U.S., CDC estimates
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-cases-ba2-omicron-sub-variant-cdc/
The BA.2 sub-lineage of the Omicron variant now makes up nearly a quarter of new COVID-19 infections nationwide, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated Tuesday, up from around 1 in 10 new cases just a week prior.

Since January, Omicron has made up virtually all new infections in the U.S. Like in many countries abroad, most cases in the U.S. had been caused by a sub-lineage of Omicron known as BA.1. But while both BA.1 and BA.2 can be traced back to some of the earliest samples gathered of Omicron, BA.2 has only recently begun to climb in prevalence.

BA.2's prevalence is the highest in the Northeast, according to the CDC's "Nowcast" estimates published Tuesday. In the region spanning New York and New Jersey, the agency estimates 39.0% of circulating viruses are BA.2. In New England, prevalence of BA.2 is at 38.6%.
 
I believe most Omicron cases in NZ are the BA.2 variant. Which is the likely variant I caught last week. My self isolation period ends in two days; just a slight cough now and my nose is still stuffy but it isn't runny like before and I'm not sneezing.
 
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A close family friend has a case of COVID-19, and about 70% chance that it is BA.2, based on current numbers in CDC Region 2. He is double vaccinated + first booster. His wife is procuring the antiviral treatment. His condition was described as 'sounding bad', which I interpret as a bad cold.

Taking a look at New York State, where masks mandates have expired for about a month, and BA.2 is about 71% of cases, and B.1.1.529 is the remainder:

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                                       Fraction
Age group    Cumulative  Jan-Mar '22  1Q22/Cumul.
90 and Over    8,716        1,152      0.1322
80 to 89      14,671        1,732      0.1181
70 to 79      14,248        1,699      0.1192
60 to 69      10,010        1,139      0.1138
50 to 59       4,772          567      0.1188
40 to 49       1,716          213      0.1241
30 to 39         710           85      0.1197
20 to 29         227           36      0.1586
10 to 19          31            9      0.2903
 0 to  9          30           12      0.4000
All ages      55,131        6,644      0.1205
Cumulative is the total since the beginning of March 2020, Jan-Mar '22 is the last three months, and the last (rightmost) column is the ratio of Jan-Mar'22 to Cumulative.

New York State fatalities reported to CDC = 70,251
The confirmed cases = 55,140 = 55,131 + 9 unknown

Note that 40% of the child (ages 0-9 yrs) deaths and 29% of the adolescent deaths occurred during the last 3 months. Nearly 16% of deaths in the young adult (20-29) death occurred in the last 3 months in NY. The last 3 months represents about 12% of the last 25 months, since the beginning of March 2020.

Since March 2020, New York has reported 4,975,747 positive cases, in a population of ~2.020 M, and with a reported 104,592,544 tests, or 5x the population.

https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/c...ID19-Tracker/NYSDOHCOVID-19Tracker-Fatalities
https://www.census.gov/library/stor...-population-change-between-census-decade.html
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/fatalities-0 - updated daily
https://health.data.ny.gov/Health/New-York-State-Statewide-COVID-19-Fatalities-by-Ag/du97-svf7/data - cumulative database of confirmed cases
 
New York state officials this week announced that two new omicron subvariants, dubbed BA.2.12 and BA.2.12.1, have become the dominant forms of the Coronavirus in the central part of the state. For weeks, infection rates in central New York have been at least twice the state average, according to data from the state health department.

The new omicron sublineages in New York have picked up mutations that may help the virus enter cells faster and evade vaccine- and infection-boosted immunity, said Andy Pekosz, a virologist at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.
https://news.yahoo.com/highly-transmissible-forms-omicron-may-194229998.html
In March, the two subvariants accounted for more than 70% of reported Covid-19 cases in central New York. So far in April, the data show an increase to 90% of all new cases.
 
A couple of new kids on the block...
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01069-4
"Working through the weekend, he and his colleagues found that they had. A month earlier — during the first week of March — the BA.4 and BA.5 sequences comprised around 5% of the roughly 500 genomes sequenced in South Africa. By the first week of April, the portion had risen to 50%. That week, an international virus classification group determined that BA.4 and BA.5 were indeed their own separate lineages on the Omicron family tree and gave them their names."

"One thing that makes BA.4 and BA.5 stand out to virologists is an amino acid mutation they share called F486V. It is located on the viruses’ spike protein near where the protein attaches to the ACE2 receptor on cells — an interaction that opens the door to infection. Important antibodies generated in response to COVID-19 vaccines and to prior infections with SARS-CoV-2 neutralize the virus by clinging to this spot."
 
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Now in April, after falling through March, positive SARS-Cov-2 infections have picked up again in New York State thanks to subvariants BA.2.12 and BA.2.12.1. Daily deaths which had fallen into single digits have returned to double digits and may continue to increase slightly as the rate of infections increase.

The Omicron variant was first confirmed in New York State on December 2, 2021. During the winter Omicron wave that followed, the lineages BA.1 and BA.1.1 were most prevalent, and in February, a rapid growth of BA.2 began.

On April 13, 2022, the Department announced the emergence of two recently-identified Omicron subvariants in New York State, BA.2.12 and BA.2.12.1. Both subvariants are sub-lineages of BA.2, and at that time, were estimated to have a 23% – 27% growth advantage above the original BA.2 variant. BA.2.12.1 has been noted to be of higher concern, given additional mutations.

For samples of SARS-CoV-2 collected between March 27, 2022 -- April 9, 2022 from New York that are sequenced and uploaded into GISAID, 100% were the Omicron variant. During this time period 0.8% of Omicron sequences were lineage BA.1, 7.0% were BA.1.1, 57.4% were BA.2, 9.5% were BA.2.12, and 25.4% were BA.2.12.1.

Between April 10 and April 16, 2022 CDC’s program for HHS Region 2 (New York, New Jersey, Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico) estimated 100% of samples were the Omicron variant. During this time period 2.1% of Omicron sequences were lineage BA.1, 45.7% were BA.2/BA.2.12 and 52.3% were BA.2.12.1.

Monitoring Omicron BA.2.12.1
For more information on the emergence of BA.2.12.1 in New York State, the graph below presents the percent of sequences in GISAID, with additional patient location information from laboratory databases, classified as BA.2.12.1 in each region over the past three months.

In the Central New York region, which has experienced the most elevated case rates in New York State since March 2022, BA.2.12.1 was first detected in February 2022 and rose to 77% of sequences by April 2022. Furthermore, in April BA.2.12.1 also represented >50% of sequences in the Finger Lakes region, and >25% of sequences in Capital Region, Mohawk Valley, and Southern Tier regions, based on sequences through April 20, 2022.
The most vulnerable are those 65 and older, but there are occasional deaths in the 30-, 40- and 50-somthing populations, and once in a while in the 20-something population.

https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-variant-data
Reinfections also seem to be trending with new positive cases.
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-reinfection-data
 
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These graphs can get tidied up but with those two large peaks at 650 and rolling 7 day average at 240 deaths per day by April 22nd these numbers are still high.

Considering we appear to be at the “living with it” stage.

Another poster pointed out we cannot relay on cases data anymore as we are not testing anywhere near previous levels.

With all restrictions lifted here the virus will find its way to the old, whose immune response to the vaccine will not be as effective, the unvaccinated (plenty of them) and immune suppressed.

A very stressful situation for a family with a child with leukaemia, auto immune or grandparents over 75.

Total isolation the only real protection?
 
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Total isolation the only real protection?
That would be optimum... but realistically difficult to put into practice based on personal experience. My wife is immunosuppressed so we both spent about two years in hermit mode, that worked up until last January, then it didn't. (Vaccinated, boosted, etc.) and still managed to get the virus. Fortunately with the Vaccinations it amounted to sever Flu symptoms rather than something worse. I highly recommend vaccination.
 
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Reports of new cases were nearly flat in the U.S. at the beginning of April, but as the month draws to a close, they are increasing in all but three states, signaling a wave that is increasingly national in scope.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/cases-rising-nearly-every-corner-142223747.html

Hospitalizations are also on the rise nationwide, after plummeting early this month to their lowest point since March 2020. More than 30 states and territories have seen their hospitalization rates tick up in the past two weeks, and in much of the Northeast, the number of people hospitalized with the Coronavirus has increased since mid-month by 40% or more.

“It’s not over yet,” Toner said Friday. “It may be a mistake to relax all of our protective measures too quickly.”

And according to the NY Times, "new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows that more than 60% of Americans have been infected with the Coronavirus at least once, . . . " I expect this is based on some analysis or projection. For example, NY State has reported 5151200, or about a quarter of the population has had a positive test in the last two years, but the actual number could be greater, but to don't believe 2.33 times greater. NY State has conducted slightly more than 107.8 million tests, for people with symptoms or those who were exposed, and some more frequently because of health care concerns, or someone needs a negative test in order to travel or perform duties. Of course, there are many who may have been exposed and were asymptomatic, or had very mild symptoms, but they may not have been tested.

Cases are certainly increasing as NY has lifted the mask mandates and social distancing, but they are still in place in government offices and some businesses at the owner/operators discretion. Cases have increased following the Easter holiday, and the daily death toll has begun to increase from mostly single digits to double digits, mostly between 10 - 21 so far. Although there have been a few deaths in the 20-60 year range, those 65 and older are still the most vulnerable and account for the majority of deaths.

NY State has reported 218554 reinfections so far.
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-reinfection-data
 
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ABC News reports "COVID-19 hospital admissions, deaths forecasted to rise in the US for first time in months"
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/covid...s-deaths-forecasted-rise-us/story?id=84498664

In New York State, infections are on the rise with BA.2, BA.2.12 and BA.2.12.1. The numbers for BA.4 and BA.5 have not been reported yet.

The forecast now predicts that approximately 5,000 deaths will occur over the next two weeks, with Ohio, New York, and New Jersey projected to see the largest totals of daily deaths in the weeks to come.

On average, more than 2,200 virus-positive Americans are entering the hospital each day -- a total that has increased by 20% in the last week, the CDC reports. This also marks the highest number of patients requiring care since mid-March.

Overall, there are about 18,300 patients with confirmed cases of COVID-19 in hospitals across the country, up by 18% in the last two weeks, the Department of Health and Human Services reports.
 
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Coming out of a holiday so numbers not necessarily 100%
This where the UK is now. Those big spikes in April (650 deaths) have not been adjusted as yet.

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This from the ONS

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...id19latestinsights/deaths#avoidable-mortality

Some take aways from that link.

The number of deaths involving COVID-19 in the UK increased from 1,152 to 1,185 in the latest week (ending 22 April 2022).

Deaths involving COVID-19 accounted for 9.7% of all deaths in the latest week; a decrease from 10.2% in the previous week.

The number of deaths involving COVID-19 in England increased or remained the same for those aged 45 years and over but decreased or remained at zero for those in age groups under 45 years in the latest week.


Also, I mentioned ethnicity before but I do not think male and female death rates have been discussed that much?

A a lot of variation with the error bars??
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New York State reported its first day with over 10k cases since mid January, and 21 deaths. In the past several days, there have been three deaths in the age group 30-39 years, and one death in 20-29 age group, so Omicron is affecting younger people. In April, there was one death of a child in the 0-9 age group. It is expected that cases will increase in the near term, and likely the mortality rate.
 
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In the past several days, there have been three deaths in the age group 30-39 years, and one death in 20-29 age group, so Omicron is affecting younger people.
Any information on vaccination status and any corbidities in the above four ?
 
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The Coronavirus mutant that is now dominant in the United States is a member of the omicron family but scientists say it spreads faster than its omicron predecessors, is adept at escaping immunity and might possibly cause more serious disease.

A genetic trait that harkens back to the pandemic’s past, known as a “delta mutation,” appears to allow the virus “to escape pre-existing immunity from vaccination and prior infection, especially if you were infected in the omicron wave,” said Dr. Wesley Long, a pathologist at Houston Methodist in Texas. That’s because the original omicron strain that swept the world didn’t have the mutation.
https://apnews.com/article/covid-sc...es-pandemics-72462053f8d60fd548cf34377864100b
The omicron “subvariant” gaining ground in the U.S. — known as BA.2.12.1 and responsible for 58% of U.S. COVID-19 cases last week — isn’t the only one affected by the delta mutation.

Although most people don’t know for sure which [Omicron] variant caused their illness, the original omicron caused a giant wave of cases late last year and early this year.
 
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The omicron variant of Covid-19 has branched out into more transmissible and evasive versions.
https://www.vox.com/23100593/covid-subvariant-omicron-ba-2-4-5-vaccine-paxlovid
Treatments have also hit some snags. The mutations in omicron have rendered several monoclonal antibody treatments ineffective. Some doctors have also reported that Covid-19 symptoms in patients rebounded after completing a course of the antiviral drug Paxlovid.

All the while, another wave of Covid-19 cases is poised to wash over the US as summer heat forces people back indoors, creating more opportunities to spread the virus. Many parts of the country have also lifted face mask requirements and social distancing rules. Covid-19 cases number around 100,000 per day, but the rise of at-home testing means the official tallies are https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2022-05-20/latest-covid-19-surge-in-u-s-is-drastically-undercounted, if people bother to get tested at all.

I was just listening to an interview with an epidemiologist who mentioned that with the Omicron variants, a more people are getting reinfected, and it may happen more than once or twice.

https://www.vox.com/today-explained Look for the episode, "How often can you get Covid?"
Vox Today Explained asked a researcher who has been studying omicron reinfections.
 
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I talked with a Canadian friend and colleague today via FaceTime. He apologized for a persistent cough then mentioned that he had tested positive for SARS-Cov2. He apparently contracted SARS-Cov2 from exposure to his son, who caught it from a teacher at school. Although his son wears a mask (N95) at school, the teacher and most other students do not. Of course, the student must remove his mask to drink and eat. So SARS-Cov2 (most probably a variant or subvariant of Omicron) is circulating in the schools in Ontario.

My friend (in his 30s) has had the two Pfizer vaccinations last year, and more recently a booster with Moderna, but I don't know how long ago. His COVID-19 symptoms are mild.

He thought his symptoms were allergies acting up, but his allergy medications didn't affect the symptoms. He then did a home test, which indicated positive. I don't know if he did a PCR test. He is isolating at home.
 
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I think there needs to be some international coordination to get cases right down. NZ managed to go many months without any detected cases, though we had our borders closed. It won't be easy, and is probably too delusional to think it is viable.
 
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Update on BA.4 and BA.5 now becoming dominant.

'The worst version' of COVID SARS-Cov2 is spreading.​

https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-wors...we-update-our-vaccines-in-time-131933423.html
For anyone who hasn’t been paying attention, the Omicron strain that triggered last winter’s massive COVID wave (BA.1) is now extinct. In March, it was supplanted by the even more transmissible BA.2 … which was supplanted in May by the even more transmissible BA.2.12.1 … which is now being supplanted by the (you guessed it) even more transmissible BA.4 and BA.5.

Experts say BA.5 is the one to worry about: “The worst version of the virus that we’ve seen,” as Dr. Eric Topol, the founder of Scripps Research Translational Institute, recently put it. Together, the closely related BA.4 and BA.5 now account for the majority of new U.S. COVID cases, according to the latest data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention — but BA.5 (36.6%) is spreading a lot faster than BA.4 (15.7%). By early July, it will be the dominant strain in the U.S.

A.4 and BA.5 Omicron: How worried should we be?​

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55659820

Omicron - B.1.1.529, BA.1, BA.1.1, BA.2, BA.3, BA.4 and BA.5​

First identified: South Africa
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/about-variants.html
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/forecasting/mathematical-modeling-outbreak.html

BA.4 and BA.5 are spreading in NY and CDC region 2 during June, and are expected to spread during July.
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-variant-data
 

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'The worst version' of COVID is spreading. Can we update our vaccines in time?​

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-wors...we-update-our-vaccines-in-time-131933423.html

For anyone who hasn’t been paying attention, the Omicron strain that triggered last winter’s massive COVID wave (BA.1) is now extinct. In March, it was supplanted by the even more transmissible BA.2 … which was supplanted in May by the even more transmissible BA.2.12.1 … which is now being supplanted by the (you guessed it) even more transmissible BA.4 and BA.5.

Experts say BA.5 is the one to worry about: “The worst version of the virus that we’ve seen,” as Dr. Eric Topol, the founder of Scripps Research Translational Institute, recently put it.
 
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Global COVID cases rise as BA.4 and BA.5 expand​

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/06/global-covid-cases-rise-ba4-and-ba5-expand

COVID-19 cases jumped 18% last week and are at their highest levels since April, and the increase comes as the more transmissible Omicron BA.4 and BA.5 subvariants cause most infections, the World Health Organization (WHO) said today in its latest update.

BA.4, BA.5 make up 55% of global samples​

Four of the six WHO regions saw rises last week: the Eastern Mediterranean, Europe, Southeast Asia, and the Americas. Globally, deaths stayed level, but were up in the Eastern Mediterranean, Southeast Asian, and Americas regions.

About 4.1 million cases were reported to the WHO last week, likely an undercount given reduced testing in many countries. The United States, Germany, Brazil, Italy, and China reported the most cases.

The Hill - New omicron subvariant BA.5 now a majority of US COVID-19 cases
https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...ant-ba-5-now-a-majority-of-us-covid-19-cases/

https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...-transmissible-subvariant-now-dominant-in-us/

Pediatric COVID-19 cases rising for 1st time since May​

Last week, nearly 76,000 children tested positive for the virus.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/pediatric-covid-19-cases-back-rise-time/story?id=86259070

As more infectious COVID-19 variants become dominant in the U.S., there are renewed signs that COVID-19 cases may be back on the rise across parts of the country.
The national resurgence comes as the number of children testing positive for the virus also sees an increase again.
New infections among children had been on the decline since May, however, for the first time in nearly two months, there has been an uptick in the weekly total of pediatric COVID-19 cases.
 
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My daughter's roommate has tested positive for SARS-Cov2 infection, which she probably contracted on a flight from Europe to US about a week ago. Roommate's mother, who is not vaccinated (antivaxxer), also tested positive. The roommate has had a strong cough and fever, although the fever is down today. She got a prescription for Paxlovid. Other symptoms included losing sense of taste and diarrhea.

Both my daughter and her roommate are vaccinated and boosted, and my daughter has so far tested negative, and shows no symptoms.

I suspect the roommate has BA.4 or BA.5, or some other Omicron subvariant. Waiting for more information and to see if my daughter comes down with it.
 
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Vox - The omicron subvariant is tuned to evade immunity, even from previous omicron infections.
https://www.vox.com/23200811/covid-19-omicron-ba5-reinfection-vaccine-paxlovid

Florida records 146,069 new COVID-19 cases, 771 deaths in 2 weeks (that's more than 10K/day cases, and > 55 deaths/day over a 14 day period. Numbers may be high due to lag in reporting deaths over holidays.
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/cor...0220715-bd4crkzourbe3dhidavtf5ehm4-story.html

I also read a story about some patient with 3 unknown (as yet unidentified) SARS-Cov2 subvariants, but I don't know how recent the article, since I misplaced it.

Some notes from last week (July 13) from the NY Times Coronavirus page

  • The daily case average grew to more than 129,000 on Tuesday, and cases are rising in more than 40 states. Since cases have always been an undercount, it is likely that the true number of cases is far higher — particularly since test positivity rates are also increasing sharply nationwide.
  • These increases come as the BA.5 variant, believed to be the most transmissable variant yet of the coronavirus, is emerging as the country's dominant virus strain.
  • Hospitalizations are also rising in the U.S. That pattern is similar to hospitalization surges seen earlier this summer in countries where BA.5 first began to circulate. More than 37,000 people are in American hospitals with the Coronavirus on an average day, an increase of 17 percent since the start of the month.
 
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Reuters, Fri, July 22, 2022 - New Zealand COVID-19 death rate at record levels
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...-19-death-rate-at-record-levels-idUKKBN2OX0H0
Deaths from the virus reached 151 in the seven days to July 16, compared with 115 in the worst week of the previous wave, in March, according to Health Ministry data. In the latest 24 hours, 26 people died from COVID, all aged over 60, the ministry said in a statement on Friday.

The Omicron BA.5 sub-variant is driving the current wave in New Zealand, which has 5.1 million people. There have been 64,780 active cases in the past seven days, although authorities say many infections are unreported.

Subvariant BA.5 seems to be running amok around the world.
 
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I just learned that my brother, his wife and my nearly 93-year old father has Covid-19. All three were quite ill for 5 days. They are currently testing negative. That may explain my dad's cognitive issues.

One of my daughter's friends had Covid-19 a few weeks ago, and while the friend (under 30) 'recovered', she has had breathing issues since. So recovery is not necessarily a full recovery, and there may be permanent damage to lungs and circulatory system.
 
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Laroxe said:
I hope things are OK, but it shows that Covid continues to be a real issue. It's worth remembering that a full recovery can take some weeks, so hopefully these issues should resolve.

I thought people might be interested in some of the latest developments and ideas, though you need Medscape membership (free) to access the article.

https://www.medscape.co.uk/viewarticle/what-s-next-covid-pharma-pipeline-2022a100210y
We had a spike but seem to be on the way down again.
We got to 16,000 from 5000 in a few weeks in hospital.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare
 
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I got both my flu shot and COVID Pfizer booster today (the one with targeted Omicron protection).

I previously got Moderna only, so this was a switch up (only b/c Sam's Club didn't offer Moderna yet).

Will there be a BA.xxxxxx booster coming out anytime. Does the Omicron version help with the BA.xxxxxxx one at all?

And if more and more variants come out, how many targeted boosters do you think we'll ultimately get. Would this go the way of flu shots, where they target 3 or 4 expected strains each year?
 
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^^^I realized I'm dumber than a doorknob:

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/27/pfi...ew-omicron-specific-covid-booster-to-get.html

Pfizer’s booster is cleared for anyone 12 and older, while Moderna’s booster is for people 18 and older. To get either one, you’ll need to be at least two months removed from completing a primary vaccine series or receiving any other Covid shot.

Beyond those eligibility guidelines, the new boosters aren’t that different from each other. Both shots are bivalent, meaning they target omicron’s BA.4 and BA.5 subvariants alongside the original Covid strain.
o:)
Federal health officials say both shots will serve as a desperately needed layer of protection for the coming months, as the weather turns colder and immunity from previous vaccines wanes. In other words, you can’t go wrong with either.

But if you’re still trying to decide which one to get, here’s what you need to know — from mixing-and-matching and side effects to the makeup of the two new shots. . .
 
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BA.4, .5 = Omicron.

[Edit:] Self awareness was faster... :D

...but, eventually, Omicron might probably mutate "around" this vaccine, too. And probably get some fresh Greek letter, then.
 
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kyphysics said:
I got both my flu shot and COVID Pfizer booster today (the one with targeted Omicron protection).

I previously got Moderna only, so this was a switch up (only b/c Sam's Club didn't offer Moderna yet).

Will there be a BA.xxxxxx booster coming out anytime. Does the Omicron version help with the BA.xxxxxxx one at all?

And if more and more variants come out, how many targeted boosters do you think we'll ultimately get. Would this go the way of flu shots, where they target 3 or 4 expected strains each year?
Thanks, that reminded me I need to book mine in! Flu and Covid!
 
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Yes, apparently we are now seeing a small rise in the number of cases so this might be the start of a new season for Covid. There still seems to be some debate about how useful these variant specific vaccines might be. It seems with the Omicron variants the transmissibility makes protection from infection very unlikely, the marked increase in antibodies following vaccination seems to be rather short lived. However the illness does seem milder and all the vaccines continue to offer significant protection against serious disease for a much longer period. This is based on the T cell response's which target conserved parts of the virus so all the variants are targeted and all the vaccine's reinforce these responses.
While logic seems to suggest that a more specific vaccine would be better, its not at all that simple. Its true that the vaccines specific to variants increase the variant specific antibodies, though there isn't a great difference and researchers have largely lost interest in antibodies. The levels achieved simply don't seem to have much on an impact on B5 transmission. Unfortunately there is also the possibility that giving a half dose of the original vaccine and half dose of the new omicron specific vaccine may actually reduce protection because of interference, due to the "original antigenic sin". Basically these are all things we simply don't know yet but it does seem that this year flu will be a more significant problem.
 
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Thanks, that reminded me I need to book mine in! Flu and Covid!
FWIW, experts recommend getting the flu shot LATER (late October/early November), b/c that would allow our peak defenses to be in place during peak flu season. See article below:
‘When should I get my flu vaccine?’

The timing of when you get your flu shot should be aligned with the time frame that would allow you to have the best antibody response during the beginning of flu season, Hatziioannou tells CNBC Make It.

It’s important to look at data from recent years, prior to the pandemic, in your local area to determine when cases historically start to increase in your community, Hatziioannou says.

The standard rule of thumb is get your vaccination four weeks before the beginning of flu season in order to have the most protection because that’s when you’ll have the best antibody response, she notes.
“In New York and several other areas with the same geographical latitude, flu season usually starts in December and lasts until March,” she says. “So, if you have it [the flu shot] now, at the end of September or [early] October, your peak antibody responses will be in November. It’s a little bit too early.”

At this time, Hatziioannou recommends getting your flu shot at the end of October or early November to have the highest protection throughout December.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/20/should-you-get-your-covid-booster-and-flu-shot-at-the-same-time.html

I got mine at the same time, b/c it was offered and I hadn't read this article yet.
 
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New BA.2.75 sub-variant has some folks wondering if it will lead to another COVID-19 wave in the world.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9420005/

https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/...s-dominant-strain-ba-2-75-is-being-monitored/

https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2022/9/27/23375242/ba-2-75-2-variant-omicron-symptoms
According to the report, Dr. Anthony Fauci said that the emerging mutation was “suspicious” and could become a variant of concern in the fall.

It's evolving similarly to BA.5, which is the dominant strain behind 83% of reported infections in the U.S., as per Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates.

BA.2.75.2, for now, is expanding its reach in India and accounts for about 0.5% of cases worldwide. The World Health Organization hasn’t separated this mutation from BA.2.75, but it is singled out under “Omicron subvariant under monitoring.”

One preprint study, published in mid-September, found that the mutation exhibited a tendency to extensively escape neutralizing antibody treatments authorized by the Food and Drug Administration, except for one — bebtelovimab.

But the findings of another study published in the New England Journal of Medicine were more encouraging. Bebtelovimab was also reported to work against the variant as well as other antiviral treatments like remdesivir, molnupiravir and Paxlovid.

Omicron has over 200 sublineages being monitored. Here are the subvariants driving cases in the U.S.:
  • BA.5 — 83.1% of cases.
  • BA.4.6 — 11.9% of cases.
  • BF.7 — 2.3% of cases.
  • BA.4 — 1.4% of cases.
  • BA.2.75 — 1.4% of cases.
BF.7?! On rise in CDC Region 2 (NY, NJ, VI and Puerto Rico (see below)).

https://khn.org/morning-breakout/alarm-bells-ring-over-new-omicron-variants-ba-2-75-and-ba-5-2-1/
BA5.2.1

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinas-shanghai-says-new-omicron-subvariant-found-2022-07-10/

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions
The Omicron variant was first confirmed in New York State on December 2, 2021. During the winter Omicron wave that followed, the lineages BA.1 and BA.1.1 were most prevalent, and in February, a rapid growth of BA.2 began.

On April 13, 2022, the Department announced the emergence of two recently-identified Omicron subvariants in New York State, BA.2.12 and BA.2.12.1. Both subvariants are sub-lineages of BA.2, and at that time, were estimated to have a 23% – 27% growth advantage above the original BA.2 variant. BA.2.12.1 has been noted to be of higher concern, given additional mutations.For samples of SARS-CoV-2 collected between September 11 -- September 24, 2022 from New York that are sequenced and uploaded into GISAID, 99.5% were the Omicron variant. During this time period 3.1% of sequences were lineage BA.2, 0.2% were BA.2.12.1, 1.5% were BA.4, 16.7% were BA.4.6 and 78.1% were BA.5 .

Between September 18 and September 24, 2022 CDC’s program for HHS Region 2 (New York, New Jersey, Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico) estimated 100% of samples were the Omicron variant. During this time period 2.3% of sequences were BA.2.75, 1.1% were BA.4, 14.1% were BA.4.6, 79.8% were BA.5, and 2.8% were BF.7.
Ref: https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-variant-data (subject to change weekly/biweekly with new data)
 

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Most Americans don’t plan to get a flu shot this season — lots of them say they’ll mask to avoid germs instead


Hmmm...some interesting rationale in this piece. . .I used to never get flu shots either until COVID hit. Then, I became more virus-aware.

I would think MORE people would want to get vaccines post-COVID (for all sorts of viruses - not just COVID). . .. .*shrug*
 
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Natural selection in action?
 
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Its difficult to know what role any new variants will have in future outbreaks, there will always be new variants but it looks as if there are conserved areas on the virus that maintain the vaccine effectiveness against serious illness across the various strains. Really the ground rules have changed with populations with very high levels of immunity and variants that appear to have been selected for short incubation periods and reduced sensitivity to antibodies. The Omicron variant for example appears to have an incubation period of < 3.5 days so doesn't allow much of an antibody increase, this effectively means that the vaccine provides very little protection against infection but the response over time still protects against serious disease. This means the case fatality rate has fallen below that of flu and the risks very clearly focussed on specific populations, though co-infection of Covid 19 with flu significantly increases risk and it is still the unvaccinated that are over represented in the hospitalised.

Its become increasingly clear that this virus is very "promiscuous" it appears able to cause infection in a wide range of species, many of which live close to human populations. This does suggest we are likely to be stuck with this virus and we can expect regular waves of infection. We still don't really know how these waves of infection will propagate around the globe, there are still large areas with low vaccination rates and the belief that they will remain relatively untouched represents a triumph of hope over experience. Early in the pandemic India experienced low rates of infection leading to the belief that something about their lifestyle protected them, we now know how that turned out. Despite the huge research effort and the exponential growth in our understanding of viral diseases, this virus still manages to come up with some surprises, hopefully this will also reduce over time.
 
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The Omicron variant for example appears to have an incubation period of < 3.5 days so doesn't allow much of an antibody increase,
That appears to be the case, based on my son's exposure, and more recently, my brother-in-law and sister (both are vaccinated and double-boosted, but not Omicron vaccine), who recently participated in a family gathering, but did not wear masks; brother-in-law and my sister developed symptoms on Monday and Wednesday, respectively. They had traveled by air on Thursday, and they presented symptoms as early as ~3.5 days later. Both a quite ill (fever, chills, cough and fatigue).

My kids, my wife and I still wear masks in public, but most don't. Those not wearing masks in public are at risk of contracting the Omicron variant, even if they have had Covid previously.

Meanwhile, ABC reports "86% of kids under 17 have antibodies from a past COVID infection, CDC data shows"
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/86-kids-17-antibodies-past-covid-infection-cdc/story?id=91106508

More than eight in 10 kids under the age of 17 have antibodies from a past COVID-19 infection, according to new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The analysis shows that as of August, 86% of children between 6 months and 17-years-old have had at least one COVID infection since the pandemic began.

That number is an increase from data in April, when the public health agency found 75% of people under the age of 17 had been infected with the virus.

"What we have to recognize is this is more of an indication that there's been broad spread of this virus in the pediatric community," said Dr. John Brownstein, an ABC News contributor and chief innovation officer at Boston Children's Hospital. "And that, you know, the kids are not sheltered from this virus. And we know that in a small number of cases, there's severe impacts."

What the findings don't mean is that 86% of children and adolescents are now protected against COVID reinfection because they've had COVID before. Experts have noted that they don't know exactly how long protection from infection lasts after contracting the virus.
 
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...This means the case fatality rate has fallen below that of flu...
I'm not qualified to dispute this claim, but I would like to point out that in the USA, Covid is currently killing 3 times as many people as the flu, statistically speaking:

Per the CDC, 300,000 people died of the flu for the years 2010 thru 2017, yielding a death rate of 100 people per day. Current CDC Covid claims are about 300 deaths per day.

Again, I'm not disputing your claim. I'm just reminding people that this is still a complicated and dynamic situation.
 
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Laroxe said:
This means the case fatality rate has fallen below that of flu
I thought the case fatality rate for influenza is something like 0.1%. I've been collecting statistics on two states that indicate a mortality rate of about 1% based on confirmed positive infections and deaths attributed to COVID-19. Of course, the number of infected could be a factor of 2 or 3. In New State, there have been 6067755 positive cases of COVID-19, or about 0.305 based on an estimated population of 19,835,913. A factor of 2 would make that 61% and a factor 3 would yield 91.5%, with a case fatality rate decreasing to between 0.5 to 0.33%, which is still about 5 to 3 times greater than the case mortality rate of influenza (which may also include influenza with pneumonia).
Ref: https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/NY
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-testing-tracker

BTW, NY State reports that another child (age 0-9) has died from COVID within the last two days, bring the total to 37 of 58,234 deaths reported in hospital or care facilities, or 74,363 reported to the CDC, which includes those dying outside of medical/care facilities, since March 2020. The number of children succumbing is of course low, but it the child of ~37 sets of parents.

Edit/update: New York State has about 20 fatalities per day from SARS-Cov-2.

Edit/update(2): Symptoms of COVID-19
· Fever or chills
· Cough
· Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
· Fatigue
· Muscle or body aches
· Headache
· New loss of taste or smell
· Sore throat
· Congestion or runny nose
· Nausea or vomiting
· Diarrhea

My sister and brother-in-law have the first 8 symptoms excluding Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing. My sister was too tired to text, so she called me. She described something like 'brain fog'.
 
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Seems that BA.4 and BA.5 aren't quite as different as feared.

from: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2209306

The effectiveness of pre-omicron infection against symptomatic BA.4 or BA.5 reinfection was 35.5% (95% confidence interval [CI], 12.1 to 52.7);

the effectiveness against any BA.4 or BA.5 reinfection regardless of the presence of symptoms was 27.7% (95% CI, 19.3 to 35.2) (Table 1).

The effectiveness of post-omicron infection against symptomatic BA.4 or BA.5 reinfection was 76.2% (95% CI, 66.4 to 83.1);

the effectiveness against any BA.4 or BA.5 reinfection was 78.0% (95% CI, 75.0 to 80.7).
(reformatted for readability)

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My sister and her husband are slowly recovering. They are still congested, but lungs are functioning. Fever is down.

My sister mention BA6, but I believe she was referring to BA4.6, which seems to be on the rise.
 
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