Angular acceleration of a cylinder rolling up an inclined plane?

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The discussion revolves around the angular acceleration of a cylinder rolling up an inclined plane, which is being pulled by a block. The participants are examining the relationship between linear and angular acceleration, particularly in the context of a cylinder with specific mass and radius on inclined planes with given angles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are exploring the relationship between linear acceleration and angular acceleration, questioning the validity of their calculations and the units involved. They are attempting to apply torque equations and are confused by differing results for angular acceleration.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing uncertainty about their calculations and seeking clarification on the concepts of angular acceleration and torque. Some guidance has been provided regarding the dimensional nature of radians, but there is no consensus on the correct approach or resolution of the discrepancies in their findings.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working with specific values for mass, radius, angles of inclination, and tension in the string, which may influence their calculations and assumptions. The problem setup involves two inclined planes and a pulley system, adding complexity to the analysis.

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Homework Statement



The cylinder is being pulled up the plane by a block. I've found that it IS rolling without slipping, and the acceleration is 5.00156 m/s^2.

Homework Equations



a=R[alpha]

The Attempt at a Solution




I've heard that the angular acceleration is the linear acceleration/radius, but this doesn't make sense, because using a radius of .2m, I get 25.0078 s^-2. What kind of units are inverse seconds squared? Does an angular acceleration of 25 even make sense for this situation? and is that even the right units? I thought it was supposed to be in rad/sec^2?

I've also seen that [torque]=I[alpha] Can I use that somehow? What would the torque be?
 
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Now I've tried using [torque]=rf and [torque]=I[alpha] and set them equal to each other and have gotten [alpha]=42.44.. How can this be right?? I'm getting two completely different answers :( :(
 
You haven't really described the whole problem so I don't know why you are getting two answers for the torque. But a radian angular measure is the distance along a circle divided by the radius of the circle. Since they are both measured in meters the units of radians are meters/meters. There's nothing wrong with writing rad/sec^2 but since 'rad' is formally dimensionless, they often omit writing 'rad'.
 
Okay awesome! Well there are two inclined planes connected at the tips each with angle [theta] and [phi] which are 30 degrees, and 60 degrees respectively. On the 30 degree plane is a cylinder with mass 1.2 kg and radius .2m, and on the 60 degree plane is a block of mass 3 kg. These two objects are connected by a string running over a pulley. So the block is pulling the cylinder up its plane. The tension in the string is 16.97 N, and the acceleration (linear) is 5.00156 m/s^2. I'm not used to angular acceleration so I'm not sure if 20 rad/s^2 is acceptable for this situation... :/
 

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