Angular frequency of the small oscillations of a pendulum

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The discussion centers on the angular frequency of small oscillations in a pendulum, with a focus on the potential energy expression and its implications for calculating frequency. The correct formula for angular frequency is derived as ω=√(g/l), while the initial expression ω=√(d²Veffect./mdθ²) is deemed incorrect due to dimensional inconsistencies. Participants emphasize the importance of expanding the potential energy around stable equilibrium points and relate it to the force constant, k. The relationship between force constant and potential energy is clarified, highlighting that k is derived from the second derivative of potential energy with respect to displacement. Ultimately, the conversation underscores the need for accurate dimensional analysis in deriving physical equations.
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Homework Statement


One silly thing may be I am missing for small oscillations of a pendulum the potential energy is -mglcosθ ,for θ=0 is the point of stable equilibrium (e.g minimum potential energy) .

Homework Equations


Small oscillations angular frequency
ω=√(d2Veffect./mdθ2) about stable equilibrium.

The Attempt at a Solution


Solving for this gives ω=√(gl),am I missing out something
Since ω=√(g/l)
 
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Apashanka said:

Homework Statement


One silly thing may be I am missing for small oscillations of a pendulum the potential energy is -mglcosθ ,for θ=0 is the point of stable equilibrium (e.g minimum potential energy) .

Homework Equations


Small oscillations angular frequency
ω=√(d2Veffect./mdθ2) about stable equilibrium.

The Attempt at a Solution


Solving for this gives ω=√(gl),am I missing out something
Since ω=√(g/l)
ω=√(d2Veffect./mdθ2) is not true. Check the dimension.
 
ehild said:
ω=√(d2Veffect./mdθ2) is not true. Check the dimension.
If the potential V(θ) is expanded about a local Maxima or minima point θ0 then V(θ)=V(θ0)+(1/2)(d2V(θ)/dθ2)(θ-θ0)2
V(θ)~(1/2)kdθ2
or ω=√(k/m)
From that I am telling this
 
Apashanka said:
If the potential V(θ) is expanded about a local Maxima or minima point θ0 then V(θ)=V(θ0)+(1/2)(d2V(θ)/dθ2)(θ-θ0)2
V(θ)~(1/2)kdθ2
or ω=√(k/m)
From that I am telling this
The force constant is defined as force divided by displacement, so its dimension is Force/Length. The second derivative of the potential with respect to displacement is equal to the force constant. The second derivative of the potential with respect the angle has dimension of work.
The force constant is ##k= \frac{d^2V}{dx^2}##, and in case of small displacements, x=Lθ, so ##k= \frac{d^2V}{L^2dθ^2}##.
 
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