Angular momentum of a rotating skew rod

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The discussion focuses on calculating the angular momentum of a rotating skew rod with two particles. The initial calculations for the angular momentum of the upper particle are presented, leading to the conclusion that the total angular momentum is twice that of the upper particle. Corrections are suggested regarding the expansion of the dot product between the position vector and angular velocity. The participants confirm that the angular momentum should be perpendicular to the position vector and discuss how components may cancel out. The conversation concludes with expressions of gratitude for the guidance received.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


The angular momentum of the upper particle is given as
## \vec L_u = m \vec r \times ( \vec \omega \times \vec r )= m[ \vec \omega r^2 - \vec r ( \vec r . \vec \omega )] = m[ r^2 \vec \omega - \omega r \cos \alpha \vec r ]##
The angular momentum of the lower particle is same to that of the upper particle.
Hence, ##\vec L = 2 \vec L_u ##
Is this correct so far?
 
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Pushoam said:

Homework Statement


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Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


The angular momentum of the upper particle is given as
## \vec L_u = m \vec r \times ( \vec \omega \times \vec r )= m[ \vec \omega r^2 - \vec r ( \vec r . \vec \omega )] = m[ r^2 \vec \omega - \omega r \cos \alpha \vec r ]##
The angular momentum of the lower particle is same to that of the upper particle.
Hence, ##\vec L = 2 \vec L_u ##
Is this correct so far?
Check your expansion of ##\vec r . \vec \omega ##.
 
haruspex said:
Check your expansion of ⃗r.⃗ωr→.ω→\vec r . \vec \omega .
After correction:
##
\vec L_u = m \vec r \times ( \vec \omega \times \vec r )= m[ \vec \omega r^2 - \vec r ( \vec r . \vec \omega )] = m[ r^2 \vec \omega - \omega r \sin \alpha \vec r ]##
Is this correct?
 
Pushoam said:
After correction:
##
\vec L_u = m \vec r \times ( \vec \omega \times \vec r )= m[ \vec \omega r^2 - \vec r ( \vec r . \vec \omega )] = m[ r^2 \vec \omega - \omega r \sin \alpha \vec r ]##
Is this correct?
Yes.
 
haruspex said:
Yes.
But the angular momentum should be perpendicular to ## \vec r ##. Here, I am getting non-zero component in the direction of ##\hat r##.
 
Pushoam said:
But the angular momentum should be perpendicular to ## \vec r ##. Here, I am getting non-zero component in the direction of ##\hat r##.
The other term, ##\vec\omega##, also has a component in the direction of ##\vec r##. The two may cancel.
 
haruspex said:
The other term##\vec\omega##, also has a component in the direction of##\vec r##. The two may cancel.
Yes, it gets canceled.
Thanks for the guidance, thanks a lot.
 

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