Understanding Thermodynamics: Solving for Resistance and Temperature

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This discussion focuses on solving a thermodynamics problem involving a platinum resistance thermometer, specifically using the formula R = R0(1 + ATc + BTc^2) to determine the constants R0, A, and B. The resistance values at key temperature points are given as 10.000 ohms (ice point), 13.946 ohms (steam point), and 24.174 ohms (melting point of zinc at 419.414 degrees C). Participants emphasize the need to set up three equations corresponding to these resistance values and their respective temperatures to solve for the unknowns. Additionally, there is a query regarding the temperature of a solution when the thermometer is immersed at a length of 25.4 cm.

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another thermodynamics problem

For this one its a combination of the wording and the whole resistance that i don't get.

In the interval between the freezing point of water and 700 degrees C, a platinum resistance thermometer is used for interpolating the temperatures on the international scale the Celsius temperature Tc is given by a formula for resistance R with temperature
R = R0(1 + ATc +BTc^2) where A and B are constants determined by measurements at the ice point, the steam point of water, and the melting point of zinc (419.414 degrees C). (a) If R equals 10.000 ohms at the ice point, 13.946 ohms at the steam point, and 24.174 at the melting point of zinc, find R0, A, and B; (b) When immersed in a solution the length is 25.4 cm. What is the temperature of the solution.

now wtf?
 
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Resistance is an electrical property of a device.
For metals, resistance increases (almost linearly)
Almost proportional to Temperature in Kelvin.
So expect B to be small.

What is Tc of the ice point? What, then, is Ro?
Do you know what temperature the "steam point" is?
 
ice87 said:
For this one its a combination of the wording and the whole resistance that i don't get.

In the interval between the freezing point of water and 700 degrees C, a platinum resistance thermometer is used for interpolating the temperatures on the international scale the Celsius temperature Tc is given by a formula for resistance R with temperature
R = R0(1 + ATc +BTc^2) where A and B are constants determined by measurements at the ice point, the steam point of water, and the melting point of zinc (419.414 degrees C). (a) If R equals 10.000 ohms at the ice point, 13.946 ohms at the steam point, and 24.174 at the melting point of zinc, find R0, A, and B; (b) When immersed in a solution the length is 25.4 cm. What is the temperature of the solution.

now wtf?
I think you need more information in order to answer b).

AM
 
You see what I don't get is where all the numbers go, and what all the letters in the equation represent. I'm guessing for part A i need to setup 3 equations with 3 variables and R equalling 10.000, 13.946, and 24.174 ohms? and maybe with Tc equalling 0, 100, and 419.414 degrees C respectively?
 

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