Temperature Variance with Resistivity

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The discussion revolves around a resistance thermometer made of platinum, which measures temperature based on changes in resistance. The original poster presents a problem involving the resistance values at specific temperatures, specifically focusing on the melting point of indium and the current ratio at a higher temperature.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between resistance and temperature using the formula R = R0[1 + α(T - T0)]. There are attempts to calculate resistance at different temperatures, leading to discrepancies in results. Questions arise regarding the appropriate reference temperature (T0) to use in calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on maintaining consistent reference values for calculations, while others express confusion over differing results. There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions made in the calculations, particularly regarding the linearity of resistance with temperature.

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Participants note that the coefficient α is valid only for specific reference conditions, and there is debate over the accuracy of the textbook's approach to the problem. The discussion highlights potential constraints in the problem setup and the assumptions being questioned.

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Homework Statement

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A resistance thermometer, which measures temperature by measuring the change in resistance of a conductor, is made of platinum and has a resistance of 50.0 Ohms? at 20.0°C. (a) When the device is immersed in a vessel containing melting indium, its resistance increases to 76.8 Ohms?. From this information, find the melting point of indium.

(b) The indium is heated further until it reaches a temperature of 235°C. What is the ratio of the new current in the platinum to the current Imp at the melting point?

Homework Equations



## R = R_0 [1+\alpha(T-T_0)] ##
##\alpha_{plat} = 3.92 \cdot 10^{-3}##

The Attempt at a Solution


For part (a), the answer is 157 degrees Celsius. (Says in the book as well)

Now, I'm getting 2 different answers for part (b) when using ## T_0 = 20## and ##T_0 = 157##.

When ##T_0 = 20##, the final resistance is ##50[1+\alpha \cdot 215] = 92.14##

When ##T_0 = 157##, the final resistance is ##76.8[1+\alpha \cdot 78] = 100.2##

Why the large discrepancy with calculating the same thing? (The 2nd one is correct, per the book)
 
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The resistance of the Pt thermometer is almost linear function of the temperature in a wide range.
You have to keep To= 20 C° and Ro=50 Ω, and calculate the resistance from the formula R(T) = Ro(1+α(T-To)).
 
Yes, that is what I did in the first calculation; however, the book performs the second calculation (and obtains diff. answer)
 
minimario said:
When ##T_0 = 20##, the final resistance is ##50[1+\alpha \cdot 185] = 86.26##

from where is 185 from?
 
I changed it to 215, which is 235 - 20.
 
Anyone can figure out problem?
 
minimario said:
Anyone can figure out problem?

Read my post #2. The coefficient α=3.92⋅10−3 °C is valid if To=20 °C, Ro=50Ω. You can not use it for other To-s. The book is wrong.
Think: If the book was right, changing the temperature by a small amount dT and getting the resistance at T+dT, you would have the equation: R(T+dT)= R(T)(1+αdT).
If dt is small, R(T+dT) = R(T) +(dR/dT )dT, and the equation is equivalent to the differential equation dR/dT=αR(T), with the solution R(T)= RoeαT, an exponential function instead of a linear one.
 
...are you sure? I'm fairly confident it's a decent book :/
 

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