Answer: Calculating Average Power Delivered to Load Resistors on 50 Ohm Line

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average power delivered to load resistors on a 50 ohm transmission line terminated with 60 ohm and 30 ohm resistors in parallel. Participants explore the implications of the transmission line's length, the input voltage, and the termination resistances on the power calculations.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the average power delivered to the load resistors using the formula P = (V^2)(1-L^2)/2Z, where L is the reflection coefficient and Z is the characteristic impedance, arriving at 81.6 watts.
  • Another participant proposes that the terminating resistance is 20 ohms, and calculates the RMS voltage at the resistor end to be 40.41 V, leading to a power dissipation of 81.63 watts.
  • A third participant suggests that the length of the transmission line does not affect the calculations due to the presence of a voltage source at one end, challenging the assumptions made by others.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for the correct formula for load voltage as a function of source voltage, line characteristic impedance, load impedance, and line length expressed as a fraction of wavelength.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the impact of the transmission line length and the configuration of the voltage source on the power calculations. There is no consensus on the correct approach or final answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential assumptions regarding the connection of the voltage source and the effects of the transmission line length, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in transmission line theory, power calculations in electrical engineering, and the effects of load impedance on circuit behavior.

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A 50 ohm transmission line is terminated with 60 ohm and 30 ohm resistors in parallel. The voltage at the input to the line is V(t) = 100 cos (5X10 ^ 9 t) and the line is 3/8 th of a wavelength long. What average power is delivered to each load resistor ?

My ans is getting 81.6 but actual ans given is 69 . I simply used the formula P = (V^2) (1-L^2) / 2 Z
where L = reflection coefficient
Z = characteristic impedance
 
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If I understand this:
The terminating resistance is 1/((1/60)+(1/30)) = 20 ohms
The RMS voltage will be 100 * sqrt(2) = 70.71 volts
The length of the transmission line doesn't make a difference because we have a voltage source at one end.

So:
The RMS voltage at the resistor end will be 70.71 * 2(20)/(20+50) = 70.71 * (4/7) = 40.41 V
So the power that the resistors are dissipating would be V*V/r = 40.41*40.41/20 = 81.63 watts

Well, that's your answer.

I think the bad assumption is about the way the input voltage source is connected to the transmission line. It would normally be connected through a 50 ohm resistor. Once you put that 50 ohm resistor in, then you will need to take into consideration the effects of the 3/8 wavelength.
 
1. Get the correct formula for the load voltage E2 as a function of source voltage E1, line chas. impedance Z0, load impedance Z2, and length of line expresed as a fraction of wavelength.

2. Then, power to the two load resistors is P = |E2|2/R
where R = 30 ohms and 60 ohms.
 
.Scott said:
ohms
The RMS voltage will be 100 * sqrt(2) = 70.71 volts
The length of the transmission line doesn't make a difference because we have a voltage source at one end.
.

Uh-uh.
 

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