How to Calculate Transmission Line Coefficients?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating transmission line coefficients using the ABCD parameters and modeling the line with a T-circuit. Participants explore the relationships between sending and receiving end voltages and currents, focusing on specific calculations related to a high-voltage transmission line.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents calculations for the transmission line coefficients R, L, G, and C based on given parameters and an open-circuit voltage.
  • Another participant suggests that Z3 is in parallel with 1/Y2, proposing a different approach to calculating the total impedance when VR=0.
  • A third participant proposes an alternative method for calculating D, indicating a division by Z3.
  • A fourth participant references learning materials that stipulate certain relationships, seeking clarification on their application.
  • One participant confirms that Z1 equals Z3, indicating agreement on that specific point.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationships between the circuit components and the calculations involved. While there is some agreement on Z1 equaling Z3, other aspects of the calculations remain contested and unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on specific parameter values and circuit models, but there are indications of missing assumptions and potential dependencies on definitions that are not fully explored.

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Homework Statement


Figure shows a 50 Hz, high-voltage, transmission line. The relationships between the sending and receiving end voltages and currents are given by the complex ABCD equations:

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where 'S' stands for sending-end and 'R' stands for receiving-end

(a) Given the parameter values in TABLE C and an open-circuit received voltage measured as 88.9 kV, calculate the values of
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and
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and hence the power
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absorbed from the supply by the transmission line on open circuit.

(b) If the line is modeled by the T-circuit of FIGURE 3(b), see if you can estimate the primary line coefficients R, L, G and C. The line is 50 km long.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I am currently doing part (b), if

[ A B ] = [ 1+Z1*Y2 Z1+Z3+Z1*Y2*Z3 ]
[ C D ] = [ Y2 1+Y2*Z3 ]

Then Y2 = C =j0.001349S
Also A=1+Z1*Y2
Z1= (A-1)/Y2
Z1=(0.8698+j0.03542-1) / j0.001349
Z1= 26.268+j96.558 Ω
Z1=Z3
So as Z1 & Z3 in series:
R+jXL = Z1*2
R+jXL = 52.536+j193.116 Ω
R coefficient = R / 50 = 1.051Ω/km
L= XL / 2πf = 193.116 / 2π*50 = 0.614707H
L coefficient = 0.614707 / 50 = 12.294mH/km
G coefficient = 0 as Y2 branch is not resistive only 'imaginary'
XC = 1 / Y2 = -j741.290 which is capacitive
C= 1/ XC*2πf = 1 / j741.290*2π*50 = 4.29μF
C coefficient = 4.29μF / 50 = 85.88pF/km

How does that look to you smarter people?
 

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In my opinion Z3 is parallel with 1/Y2 and the total Z [if VR=0] has to be Z1+Z3||1/Y2
 
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Sorry, it could be better using D=IS/IR =Z3||1/Y2 divided by Z3
 
Hi Babadag,

I would've likely said the same however in my learning materials the below is stipulated. I then equated that each as appropriate. Any ideas?

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It is o.k. and for the record Z1=Z3 indeed.
 

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