Any ways to get the desired six pack abs

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The discussion revolves around various methods and opinions on achieving six-pack abs, including exercise routines, dietary considerations, and the role of genetics. Participants share personal experiences and suggestions, exploring both theoretical and practical aspects of fitness related to abdominal development.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for six-pack abs and seeks advice on how to achieve them, mentioning a willingness to lose weight.
  • Another participant shares their experience of weight loss through reduced eating and casual exercise, suggesting that abs can appear naturally without rigorous workouts.
  • Some participants propose that fat loss is more critical than overall weight loss for revealing abs, recommending high-intensity interval training (HIIT) and proper nutrition.
  • There are claims that crunches and sit-ups may not be effective for developing visible abs, with suggestions for weighted exercises instead.
  • One participant argues that muscle development is necessary for visible abs, countering the idea that everyone has abs hidden under fat.
  • Another participant mentions the importance of overall fitness rather than focusing solely on abs, suggesting a more holistic approach to health.
  • Some participants discuss the role of genetics in achieving six-pack abs, indicating that body type may influence the ease of obtaining visible abs.
  • There are differing opinions on the effectiveness of various exercises, with some advocating for alternative movements to crunches for better results.
  • Concerns about back safety during certain exercises are raised, emphasizing the need for proper technique.
  • A participant humorously suggests genetic engineering as a flippant solution to achieving desired abs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the best methods to achieve six-pack abs, with no clear consensus on the effectiveness of specific exercises or dietary approaches. Some agree on the importance of fat loss, while others emphasize muscle development, leading to ongoing debate.

Contextual Notes

Discussions include various assumptions about body types, exercise effectiveness, and dietary habits, with some participants acknowledging the complexity of achieving visible abs. The conversation reflects differing personal experiences and beliefs about fitness.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in fitness, bodybuilding, weight loss, and those seeking diverse perspectives on achieving abdominal definition may find this discussion relevant.

  • #31


I traded my six pack for a case ages ago. It works ok for me.
 
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  • #32


Evo said:
I have dated men with washboard abs (and married one) and the amount of time they spent in the gym and gazing at themselves in the mirror flexing their muscles was a huge turn off, but I guess there must be some women out there that like watching it.

I'll take a guy with a bit of a pooch belly anytime. :smile:

Many of the guys looking at themselves in the mirror are looking for a sign of improvement. It isn't all about ego, but rather a measure of success.

i.e. "I've been doing low rep, high intensity lifts for the past 3 weeks. Is there any change? Maybe I should do my cardio at the end of my workout rather than the beginning."



etc.
 
  • #33


Good point, I never thought about it that way.
 
  • #34


seycyrus said:
Many of the guys looking at themselves in the mirror are looking for a sign of improvement. It isn't all about ego, but rather a measure of success.
My ex was admiring himself. He'd even walk into a room I was sitting in and do those dumb flexes, like it was a turn on for me and I would burst out laughing. :redface: I didn't mean to laugh, it just looked so funny, especially when you're not expecting it.
 
  • #35


How did he react when you laughed? Did he get pissed or did he want to make you laugh?
 
  • #36


WarPhalange said:
How did he react when you laughed? Did he get pissed or did he want to make you laugh?
He always got upset.

This is him, not the best picture, you can't see his abs very well.

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2360/19616061hw0.jpg
 
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  • #37


He looks well proportioned. looks like he devoted time to his legword as well. Maybe could do some more work on his shoulders.

Another thing to mention about the "mirror" thing.

The whole workout-bodybuild thing can snowball for some guys. They focus on their flaws not their achievements. Body-image problems are fairly common.
 
  • #38


seycyrus said:
He looks well proportioned. looks like he devoted time to his legword as well. Maybe could do some more work on his shoulders.

Another thing to mention about the "mirror" thing.

The whole workout-bodybuild thing can snowball for some guys. They focus on their flaws not their achievements. Body-image problems are fairly common.
That was before he started working out again at a gym. He ran a lot.
 
  • #39


Evo said:
That was before he started working out again at a gym. He ran a lot.

Yes it's obvious that he runs a lot.

And I was not drawing any connection between him and the mirror and body image thing.

Should have used two different posts, my bad.
 
  • #40


this is the inversion of a problem other boards have. usually people ask science questions on casual boards and get sent here. hence I'm sending you to www.exrx.net[/url] for very good, researched sports medicine advice and [url]www.t-nation.com[/URL] for more aesthetic concerns.
 
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  • #41


ice109 said:
this is the inversion of a problem other boards have. usually people ask science questions on casual boards and get sent here. hence I'm sending you to www.exrx.net[/url] for very good, researched sports medicine advice and [url]www.t-nation.com[/URL] for more aesthetic concerns.[/QUOTE]

How do you know they're offering good, researched advice? I don't see them offering any citations for the information provided. Just curious about that.

By the way, the summer class I just finished teaching was partly exercise physiology students...wow! They are ALL amazingly fit! :-p I handled the anatomy lab, and the other instructor handled the lectures that addressed the kinesiology aspects of the muscle functions. Seriously, there is a lot of individual variation in the tendinous intersections along the rectus abdominis muscle. In many, they could not even be distinctly identified in the upper quadrant of the abdomen. Without those, you're not going to have a defined 6-pack. You can still get a nicely toned abdomen, and can have a lean, reasonably flat stomach, but it's not going to have that 6-pack appearance.
 
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  • #42


Exercise at least every other day. Leg lifts, sit ups, stomach crunches, and getting down to a proper weight. Some people have the perfect genetics to have the ad perfect abs. Others in will have a toned figure. However at the ad agency photo shop does amazing things before one runs an ad past a client. Same goes for those perfect females in the pictures. Add 10% to the neck, lengthen the legs 7%, then ...

Most of what we see in ads and print has a bit of photo shop. In the days before photo shop I was told they used airbrushes and other manual techniques. My life was ruined when I met my first creative. I found out about Santa, the easterbunny and most of what models looked like in real life.
 
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