Any weakly right-handed protons?

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The discussion revolves around the weak charge of protons and the possibility of weakly right-handed protons and electrons. It explores theoretical models, including mirror matter and left-right symmetric models, in the context of particle physics and the standard model.

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  • Some participants note that recent measurements indicate protons and electrons on Earth are weakly left-handed, consistent with the standard model.
  • There is speculation about the existence of a sector of particles that could include weakly right-handed electrons and protons, potentially yielding opposite results.
  • Participants reference "left-right symmetric models" as a framework where such particles might exist.
  • One participant introduces the concept of mirror matter, suggesting it could relate to dark matter and involve particles that interact primarily through mirror photons.
  • Further elaboration on mirror matter includes the idea that it duplicates the symmetry group of the standard model, including additional fermions and Higgs sectors.

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Participants express differing views on the existence and implications of weakly right-handed particles, with no consensus reached on the validity or implications of the proposed models.

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The discussion includes references to theoretical models that may have varying degrees of acceptance and understanding, and the implications of these models remain unresolved.

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I expect you've heard about how the proton's weak charge has been measured directly:

http://www.sci-news.com/physics/science-weak-charge-proton-01391.html

Their findings so far are completely consistent with the standard model apparently.

So protons (and electrons) on Earth have now been directly measured to be weakly left-handed.

But could there be a sector of particles with weakly right-handed electrons and protons that would give opposite results?
 
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What do you mean with "sector of particles"? Other particle types (which would get other names)? If they would have any similarity to electrons and protons, where are they?
The same particles? Well, apparentely they just couple this way.
 
johne1618 said:
But could there be a sector of particles with weakly right-handed electrons and protons that would give opposite results?
Indeed a number of such models have been proposed. Google "left-right symmetric models".
 
mfb said:
What do you mean with "sector of particles"? Other particle types (which would get other names)? If they would have any similarity to electrons and protons, where are they?
The same particles? Well, apparentely they just couple this way.

Here's a link to the theory of mirror matter:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_matter

Mirror matter proponents like Dr Robert Foot believe that dark matter consists of mirror atoms that mainly only interact among themselves through mirror photons.
 
johne1618 said:
Here's a link to the theory of mirror matter
Note that, as I said, there's a variety of such models, of which mirror matter is one. The basic idea remains that the symmetry group of nature contains two copies of weak isospin, SU(2)L and SU(2)R. The breaking scale for SU(2)R will be higher, there may be additional fermions, and the two Higgs sectors may or may not have similar structure.

Mirror matter goes a step beyond this, duplicating the entire symmetry group of the standard model, including the color group.
 
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