Anyone want to take a crack at my decyphering my prof's handwriting?

[ainster31]

Anyone want to take a crack at deciphering my prof's handwriting?

http://i.imgur.com/8rDPmxK.jpg

There is a question mark and closing bracket at the end that was cut off FYI.

Sorry for the large image. Not sure how to make it smaller.

 

[ainster31]

Mainly two words I need help with: I don't ? see an argument here; you need to think in terms of a specific point you're planning to make - for ex., how is the visual appeal affect our understanding of the novel (i.e., how is it different from a library ?)

 

[arildno]

"I don't quite see an argument here; you need to think in terms of a specific point you are planning to make--
for ex. how is (??)

 

[arildno]

the last word is "presentation", I think.

 

[D H]

I don't quite see an argument here. You need to think in terms of a specific point you are trying to make -- for example, how is [sic] the visual aspect affect our understanding of the novel (i.e., how is it different from a library presentation?)

 

[Borek]

And not a "literary presentation"?

 

[arildno]

I think Borek is right

 

[I like Serena]

I don't quite see an argument here; you need to
think in terms of a specific point you're planning to make -
for ex., how is the visual aspect affect our understanding of
the novel (i.e., how is it different from a literary presentation?).

He uses unusual ways to write specific letters (for instance the 't'), but he is consistent.
His interpunction is flawless.
It appears he has made his handwriting artful seeing all the flourishes in it.

Still, I can see how it might be difficult to read. :)

Edit: ah, I see I am already a bit late in responding.

 

[Evo]

That's pretty bad handwriting, is this a male or female? What country were they raised in? I'm wondering if they were taught to write in English in an American school, for example, or learned to write in English on their own, so had no formal training in English handwriting.

I seem to have figured out what they were saying (based on other interpretations here, except I thought the end was "Disney presentation".

 

[I like Serena]

It's mostly the 't' that threw me off.
Once I recognized that a 't' was intended I could read most of it.
I wonder where they write it like that.

 

[Borek]

That's pretty bad handwriting

You haven't seen nothing yet.

 

[Evo]

Look at the last "p" in 'presentation. WTH? And look at the "q" in "quite" and the "g" in "argument", they're almost identical, the "q" seems to have been written backwards.

 

[Evo]

You haven't seen nothing yet.

Lol, is this a warning of your handwriting?

Drs must be trained to write poorly in med school, my pharmacist sometimes has to call the doctor to confirm what they've prescribed. Something as serious as a prescription for medication is not the time to demonstrate how poorly you can write, I've read of lawsuits where the pharmacist tried guessing at the dosage and guessed wrong. Just a couple of weeks ago I got the wrong prescription, (right medication, wrong form) the pharmacist said that they weren't sure what it said, I got a dental paste instead of a topical ointment for skin. He was so upset, even though it was the same medicine and same strength, one was a gel instead of a cream, that he drove out to my house to exchange the meds.

 

[ainster31]

She's a Canadian professor here in the GTA. She's an immigrant and has a light accent. I think she's from Poland. Her last name is Ionita. She's teaching my English class.

 

[Borek]

I think she's from Poland. Her last name is Ionita.

Nothing Polish neither about handwriting nor about the name.

 

[arildno]

Ionita is a Romanian surname, like in Alexandru Ionita.

 

[Borek]

Actually Romanian was my first thought, but I was too lazy to google to check.

 

[Evo]

She's a Canadian professor here in the GTA. She's an immigrant and has a light accent. I think she's from Poland. Her last name is Ionita. She's teaching my English class.

That confirms my guess. Needlessly flowery writing seems to be more common among women and it seems that this person didn't have the basic writing style pounded into most native English speakers (at least Americans).

 

[Borek]

this person didn't have the basic writing style pounded into

I was always fascinated by the fact all Americans write in a very similar way. I couldn't decide if it means they lack creativity, or if they have obligatory calligraphy lessons.

Makes me think about Germans. I have some postcards sent by Germans in the first half of the last century, and their writing is boringly identical. Ordnung muss sein!

This is not something possible here. In Poland everyone writes in his own way, and we can't read even our own notes.

 

[jhae2.718]

I write in all block caps thanks to having to do lettering for engineering graphics.

 

[I like Serena]

I don't think this kitty would write with a basic writing style.
If she can get past her writing block, I expect loopy script.
Oh wait! She's not a person. You got me there.

Perhaps kitty will do better when typing.

 

[Ryan_m_b]

I ran it through an optical character recognition site and it thinks this is the correct English translation

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And no there hasn't been an error, that's genuinely what the software thinks it says

 

[Evo]

Adorable ILS!

 

[arildno]

I ran it through an optical character recognition site and it thinks this is the correct English translation



And no there hasn't been an error, that's genuinely what the software thinks it says

Hmm..I think an exclamation mark went missing there??

 

[Evo]

I was always fascinated by the fact all Americans write in a very similar way. I couldn't decide if it means they lack creativity, or if they have obligatory calligraphy lessons.

Makes me think about Germans. I have some postcards sent by Germans in the first half of the last century, and their writing is boringly identical. Ordnung muss sein!

This is not something possible here. In Poland everyone writes in his own way, and we can't read even our own notes.

As an American, you grow up assuming everyone does things the way we do. Interesting information Borek, I always assumed all children were drilled for years on handwriting. It was the only subject I never did well in, I refused to hold my pencil the way we were taught because it felt awkward. My teachers were always grabbing my pencil out of my hand and making me hold it right, then as soon as they walked away I held it my way.

 

[Borek]

Well, I am slightly exaggerating (but I suppose you know me long enough to know I can't be trusted). Initially we are taught to write in exactly the same way, like here:

But it is enforced only for the first three years, and later our handwriting starts to differ greatly.

 

[1MileCrash]

I have a Polish professor with a strong accent and a Chinese professor with a strong accent, a recent immigrant, and both of them write 10 times better than your professor.

No excuse for that, in my opinion.

 

[tiny-tim]

to me, the writing seems very clear, and immediately readable

(except for the "p" in "presentation", which is lazy and looks nothing like her other "p"s)

 

[I like Serena]

to me, the writing seems very clear, and immediately readable

(except for the "p" in "presentation", which is lazy and looks nothing like her other "p"s)

Don't forget the 'p' in "aspect", which was the word that took me the longest time, especially appearing with a grammatical mistake.

 

[Astrum]

That confirms my guess. Needlessly flowery writing seems to be more common among women and it seems that this person didn't have the basic writing style pounded into most native English speakers (at least Americans).

I proudly made it through elementary school (primary school) and I never could get that "penmanship" thing down. My hand writing looks like a 2nd grader, and that's not a joke! Whenever I need to sign something, I just kinda do scribbles because I can't even remember how to "properly" do cursive... @_@

So far, so good though.

 

[tiny-tim]

Hi I like Serena!

Don't forget the 'p' in "aspect"

i thought the "p" there was clear, it was the "a" that confused me for a short time, though i don't think even that would have mattered without …

… which was the word that took me the longest time, especially appearing with a grammatical mistake.

… the "is" instead of "does"

(so that's a mistake of grammar rather than of handwriting)

 

[lisab]

http://i.imgur.com/8rDPmxK.jpg

There is a question mark and closing bracket at the end that was cut off FYI.

Sorry for the large image. Not sure how to make it smaller.

Clearly, your prof is an elf! Awesome.

 

[SteamKing]

http://i.imgur.com/8rDPmxK.jpg

There is a question mark and closing bracket at the end that was cut off FYI.

Sorry for the large image. Not sure how to make it smaller.

This is my decipherment:

"I don't quite see an argument here; you need to think in terms of a specific point you're planning to make -- for ex.[ample], how is the visual (aspect?) affect (sic) our understanding of the novel (i.e. how is it different from a literary presentation?)"

There is one grammatical slip up; the instructor used 'is' instead of 'does' when she asks the student a question ('how is' rather than 'how does').

I once went to school with a guy who was Hungarian. IDK if he spent any time in Hungary (his parents were refugees, I think), but he made his K's in a very unusual manner (at least to what I had been taught): he would draw a vertical line from the top down, and then when he reached the line, he would make a 45-deg. upward stroke, after which he would draw the 45-deg. downward stroke to prop up the first part. But, handwriting is taught by different methods and different teachers.

 

[AlephZero]

A google images search for "romanian handwriting" found this. Some of the letter shapes (e.g. q and t) look familiar...

 

[Evo]

A google images search for "romanian handwriting" found this. Some of the letter shapes (e.g. q and t) look familiar...

Hmm, it does look like she's using a flowery form of the Romanian alphabet to write English words. And she's being paid to teach English?

 

[Borek]

No idea what is this "romanian alphabet", but I am absolutely sure it is not what they teach in schools in Romania. It is most likely just an ornamental typeface, never intended to be used in anything else but fancy leaflets or artsy books, and even then only in titles.

 

[Evo]

No idea what is this "romanian alphabet", but I am absolutely sure it is not what they teach in schools in Romania. It is most likely just an ornamental typeface, never intended to be used in anything else but fancy leaflets or artsy books, and even then only in titles.

She's getting the weirdness from somewhere. I think the OP should ask where she learned to write.

 

[Borek]

She's getting the weirdness from somewhere. I think the OP should ask where she learned to write.

I don't see anything weird about her handwriting. Could be that's because I am used to differences. Her writing looks pretty stable and well established. Mine is much more chaotic.

 

[Dadface]

One duty of a professor is to communicate effectively and clearly with their students. If any of this is done by means of hand written messages then the professor should take enough care to make the messages legible.

 

[Evo]

One duty of a professor is to communicate effectively and clearly with their students. If any of this is done by means of hand written messages then the professor should take enough care to make the messages legible.

Agreed, your students shouldn't have to struggle. Grow up and learn how to write professionally, you're not a teenager writing in your diary anymore. I think that when writing in any professional venue, you should strive to be legible, and if you can't write legibly, then type. There is a time and a place for self expression, this isn't it.

 

[AlephZero]

Agreed that "romanian alphabet" is a bit artsy, but it was created by a Romanian.

Alex Botezatu. Illustrator and digital artist in Cluj-Napoca, Romania. He created a script face in 2010.

http://luc.devroye.org/fonts-53781.html

The connection with McGill university in Canada may or may not be a conincidence...

The hooks on the top of the t's are strange. There were some ligatures in old letter forms (and some modern calligraphic fonts) that joined the top of the preceding letter to the top of the t for combinations like ct or st.

Somewhere, I've seen a cursive handwritten style where the t is connected to the previous letter by a stroke from the baseline to the top of the t, and the actual letter is just a vertical stroke. The whole thing looked rather like a modern European handwrtten digit 1, joined to the previous letter.

It also reminds me of a cursive greek theta $\vartheta$ - and Romania used the Cyrillic script at one time.

More research to be done, I think.

 

[Curious3141]

I'm pretty sure that's "visual aspect", although the way the "s" flows into the "p" makes it look abhorrently like "azpect".

 

[tiny-tim]

the azpects were a very visual people …

it was the azpects who detected the aztecs, and inspected them ​

 

[leroyjenkens]

The curse of cursive writing. The purpose of language is to convey thoughts and information. That fundamental purpose has apparently been sacrificed in favor of making the language appear pretty.
Sure, we can't read what he wrote, but gosh darn it, those letters are nice and curly. And let's be honest, isn't that what really matters?

Lol, is this a warning of your handwriting?

Drs must be trained to write poorly in med school, my pharmacist sometimes has to call the doctor to confirm what they've prescribed. Something as serious as a prescription for medication is not the time to demonstrate how poorly you can write, I've read of lawsuits where the pharmacist tried guessing at the dosage and guessed wrong. Just a couple of weeks ago I got the wrong prescription, (right medication, wrong form) the pharmacist said that they weren't sure what it said, I got a dental paste instead of a topical ointment for skin. He was so upset, even though it was the same medicine and same strength, one was a gel instead of a cream, that he drove out to my house to exchange the meds.

No need to take time to write legibly when something as trivial as someone's life is at stake.

 

[Curious3141]

the azpects were a very visual people …

it was the azpects who detected the aztecs, and inspected them ​