Applying 2nd Kirchhoff's Law in a Circuit: Understanding its Use and Limitations

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The discussion revolves around the application of the 2nd Kirchhoff's law in circuit analysis, specifically regarding the validity of applying it to different loops within a given circuit. Participants are exploring the nuances of circuit loops and the relationships between voltages in those loops.

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  • Participants discuss the application of the 2nd Kirchhoff's law to various loops in the circuit, questioning the validity of applying it to a specific loop (the red one). There is also a consideration of simplifying the circuit by replacing certain resistors with their parallel equivalents.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the application of Kirchhoff's law, noting that it can be applied to any loop, while also highlighting the potential for dependent equations among the loops. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these applications.

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Participants are considering the implications of applying Kirchhoff's law to different loops and the independence of the resulting equations, indicating a need for clarity on these concepts.

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The 2nd Kirchhoff's law can be applied in this circuit twice (I think...):

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The 1nd and 2nd:
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And the my doubt is: is valid/correct try to apply the 2nd Kirchhoff's law in the mesh detached in red?

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Yes, you can apply the 2nd Kirchhoff's for any two loops. And the red one is much simpler than the green one. But R3 and R5 can be replaced by their parallel equivalent, and then you have a single loop.

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So, the 2nd Kirchhoff's law applied in the red circuit will be: ##v_3 + v_5 = 0##, correct!?
 
Correct. See the last picture in http://www.regentsprep.org/Regents/physics/phys03/bkirchof2/
 
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You can always apply Kirchhoff's 2nd to any loop. Note though that the equations you will find won't always be independent from each other. In your example, the green, red, and blue loops produce only two independent equations.
 
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