Appropriate coordinates for a given electric field

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The discussion focuses on the divergence of electric fields in different coordinate systems, specifically cylindrical and spherical coordinates. Participants emphasize that the divergence value at a point remains consistent across coordinate systems, asserting that a zero divergence in spherical coordinates should also yield zero in cylindrical coordinates. The conversation highlights the complexities of calculating divergence, particularly when transitioning between coordinate systems, and the importance of correctly adjusting components, such as the z-direction in cylindrical coordinates.

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I was facing a problem where I have an electric field and I have to find the charge density , I noticed that the field outside is that of a dipole and because I decided to use spherical coordinates and reached an appropriate answer yet using divergence in cylindrical lead me to different outputs
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this is the field I was provided
and this is the charge density that I have reached
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I tried to use this yet the output was different
I also used Cartesian it gave me the same output as the spherical ones
 
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The value of the divergence of a field at a point is independent of the coordinate system. So, if you get zero in spherical coordinates you should also get zero in cylindrical coordinates.
 
TSny said:
The value of the divergence of a field at a point is independent of the coordinate system. So, if you get zero in spherical coordinates you should also get zero in cylindrical coordinates.
thats actually why I even made this post , I got weirded out by the calculation using cylindrical coordinates since there is no component in the theta direction whereas the z results in 0 and the component in the r direction results in something other than zero unless I had to do something to the coordinates I changed from cylindrical to spherical so changed the z hat appropriately in the first case I may have missed something but got no clue what it may be
 
kirito said:
since there is no component in the theta direction whereas the z results in 0 and the component in the r direction results in something other than zero
What is the divergence in cylindrical (or spherical) coordinates? Hint: it is not the same as for Cartesian replacing variable names.
 
It's easier to do it without coordinates:
$${\bf E}=\frac{3{\bf (r\cdot \mu)r}}{r^5}-\frac{\mu}{r^3}$$
$$\nabla\cdot{\bf E}=\frac{3[\mu\cdot{\bf r}+3{\bf (\mu\cdot r)]}}{r^5}-\frac{15\mu\cdot{\bf r}}{r^5}+\frac{3\mu\cdot{\bf r}}{r^5}=0.$$
Sorry. I don't know what's wrong with my latex.
 
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